• Questions

    From Havok@25:1/116 to ALL on Tue Nov 14 18:42:47 2023
    Hello all

    I want to setup a renegade to play with.
    Who's board would be the best place to pickup
    some of the best files to get myself going?
    Like a matrix frontend and what not.
    Also been a long, long time setting up front
    door. What do most of use now for a tosser?

    Laughing I'm sure I'll more questions.


    Thanks...

    Havok



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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Tue Nov 14 20:45:50 2023
    On 14 Nov 23 18:42:47, Havok said the following to All:

    I want to setup a renegade to play with.
    Who's board would be the best place to pickup
    some of the best files to get myself going?

    The only official place for Renegade files is from Exodus and his board.

    Also been a long, long time setting up front
    door. What do most of use now for a tosser?

    D'Bridge.

    Nick

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Havok on Tue Nov 14 22:05:30 2023
    I want to setup a renegade to play with.
    Who's board would be the best place to pickup
    some of the best files to get myself going?
    Like a matrix frontend and what not.
    Also been a long, long time setting up front
    door. What do most of use now for a tosser?

    Laughing I'm sure I'll more questions.

    Here, and I still use IREX cause I love my FD/GEcho look and feel. :) But I'd use D'Bridge if I ever switched, Nick has a done a bunch of cool things with it.

    ... He's dead Jim, kick him yourself and see.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Exodus@25:25/5 to Atreyu on Tue Nov 14 22:03:06 2023
    Also been a long, long time setting up front
    door. What do most of use now for a tosser?

    D'Bridge.

    Mr Professor uses Portal of Power. :) Because he probably wrote that too.

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Alpha@25:25/0 to Havok on Wed Nov 15 09:00:28 2023
    I want to setup a renegade to play with.
    Who's board would be the best place to pickup
    some of the best files to get myself going?
    Like a matrix frontend and what not.
    Also been a long, long time setting up front
    door. What do most of use now for a tosser?

    Something I've learned in my years re-visiting older/DOS software--find things that have active contribution and usage. Renegade and D'Bridge are perfect combos for DOS-based BBSs. Maintainers are helpful and responsive!

    I'm currently configuring RG on Linux (which, to be honest, is not really how this software is meant to be run, LOL) so I'm using Binkd and HPT for tossing. That may have to change soon :) ...

    .jA.


    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Alpha on Wed Nov 15 11:10:37 2023
    I'm currently configuring RG on Linux (which, to be honest, is not
    really how this software is meant to be run, LOL) so I'm using Binkd
    and HPT for tossing. That may have to change soon :) ...

    I may just try it with linux being I run a board on such

    Right now I'm trying to figure out why 1.25 worked on win 7 but I loaded
    win 10 and it doesn't and 1.33 doesn't even come close to running for me on
    win 10, laughing this morning 5 hours in and still no luck.

    I was wondering how it would work in DOSbox is net2bbs much faster anyone?
    Heck I may try it on debian or ubuntu if all else fails.



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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Alpha on Wed Nov 15 13:43:13 2023
    On 15 Nov 23 09:00:28, Alpha said the following to Havok:

    I'm currently configuring RG on Linux (which, to be honest, is not really ho this software is meant to be run, LOL) so I'm using Binkd and HPT for tossin That may have to change soon :) ...

    I read some of your other messages - To make the most of your fun-time you are best to slap together an old computer or spin up a virtual machine running Windows XP or 7. Those are the best OS's to run RG on... nice and clean.

    "Something" happened to Windows 10 where NTVDM/DOS is broken or unreliable for running RG.

    My system Darkrealms has ran RG for 20+ years on Windows XP, now virtualized on Vmware, happily tossing mail to over a hundred systems.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Havok on Wed Nov 15 15:45:01 2023
    I may just try it with linux being I run a board on such

    Right now I'm trying to figure out why 1.25 worked on win 7 but I loaded
    win 10 and it doesn't and 1.33 doesn't even come close to running for me o
    win 10, laughing this morning 5 hours in and still no luck.

    Did you turn on NTVDM legecy options for the dos prompt in Win10?

    ... I stepped on a Tetanus needle today..... now what?

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Exodus on Wed Nov 15 17:37:14 2023
    Did you turn on NTVDM legecy options for the dos prompt in Win10?

    Yup, the very first thing I did!
    If I load net2bbs it states listening for telnet connection on port 2330
    then load a telnet client it states connected about 60 seconds later it then
    drops.



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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Havok on Wed Nov 15 20:49:56 2023

    Yup, the very first thing I did!
    If I load net2bbs it states listening for telnet connection on port 2330
    then load a telnet client it states connected about 60 seconds later it th
    drops.

    That's odd ... I've been running on Win10 since Win10 came out. I just rolled back to Win7 a few days ago after some of my doors no longer work because of something MS did with NTVDM in their latest update.

    Did you add the % 1 (space left incase a bbs software changes it for an mci)) or whatever the docs say to run DOS based BBS's in nf.bat?

    Other than, I have no idea ... Most of the other RG boards are on Win10 32bit as well that are on the telnet bbs list. Got me stumped.

    ... The way to a man's heart: between the ribs, and slightly up.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From J0Hnny A1Pha@25:1/112 to Havok on Wed Nov 15 18:57:06 2023
    I may just try it with linux being I run a board on such

    This is my setup w/RG, dosemu and Ubuntu 23.04:

    https://retroshed.us/dos-bbs-on-linux/

    Works pretty well, although i get waaaay better performance (of course) running it on a local linux machine vs cloud...

    .jA.

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (25:1/112)
  • From J0Hnny A1Pha@25:1/112 to Atreyu on Wed Nov 15 19:02:08 2023
    I read some of your other messages - To make the most of your fun-time you best to slap together an old computer or spin up a virtual machine running Windows XP or 7. Those are the best OS's to run RG on... nice and clean.

    That's probably the path I am on next (Win 7). Just need to firewall the machine on its own network. I honestly didn't think I'd get as far as I did with Linux, RG's running well, but realize dosemu2 has its own issues and the setup can be brittle, constantly shelling to access, etc. Cheers!

    .jA.

    --- Renegade v1.30/DOS
    * Origin: AlcoholidayBBS.com / Est. 1995 / Columbia, SC (25:1/112)
  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to J0Hnny A1Pha on Wed Nov 15 21:34:27 2023
    That's probably the path I am on next (Win 7). Just need to firewall the machine on its own network. I honestly didn't think I'd get as far as I di with Linux, RG's running well, but realize dosemu2 has its own issues and setup can be brittle, constantly shelling to access, etc. Cheers!

    I just rolled back to Win7 the other day. I stripped everything, and since it doesn't update anymore, it's great. ;) It amazes me how much faster the board runs. I don't know why, well, I do, they are screwing with NTVDM in Win10. It gets worse with every update (which is every month now). When some of my doors wouldn't load anymore, I had to switch back.

    Didn't have any issues running RG on Win10, just the older doors.

    ... I just tested out my pitbull. Ever heard a mime scream?

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
    * Origin: The Titantic BBS Telnet - ttb.rgbbs.info (25:25/0)
  • From Havok@25:1/116 to J0Hnny A1Pha on Thu Nov 16 07:36:04 2023
    This is my setup w/RG, dosemu and Ubuntu 23.04: https://retroshed.us/dos-bbs-on-linux/

    Hello

    Hay I may have to try this myself on my free time, Why not being I run two
    linux boxes, interesting!

    Thanks for the info it is a good read!



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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Thu Nov 16 07:55:14 2023
    On 15 Nov 23 17:37:14, Havok said the following to Exodus:

    Did you turn on NTVDM legecy options for the dos prompt in Win10?

    Yup, the very first thing I did!
    If I load net2bbs it states listening for telnet connection on port 2330
    then load a telnet client it states connected about 60 seconds later it the
    drops.

    When the connection is answered, what "exactly" happens. Does the DOS session for RG actually spawn or does it do nothing?

    Did you copy the DLL's into the \Windows\System32 directory?

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to J0Hnny A1Pha on Thu Nov 16 07:57:32 2023
    On 15 Nov 23 19:02:08, J0Hnny A1Pha said the following to Atreyu:

    That's probably the path I am on next (Win 7). Just need to firewall the machine on its own network. I honestly didn't think I'd get as far as I did with Linux, RG's running well, but realize dosemu2 has its own issues and t setup can be brittle, constantly shelling to access, etc. Cheers!

    Yup, over the years I've heard of some "problems" with RG on Dosemu and especially Dosbox. Its not so much RG as it is the door games... software mostly written by teenagers in the 90's.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Atreyu on Fri Nov 17 06:36:23 2023
    D'Bridge.

    Hello and good day!

    Going to play with your d-bridge this weekend!
    By the way was on your board yesterday, looking good!



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  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Exodus on Fri Nov 17 06:37:32 2023
    But I'd use D'Bridge if I ever switched, Nick has a done a bunch of cool things with it.

    Yes that will be on my list of things to do this weekend!



    |11|15-*|04 Hav|12ok |15*-

    ... DOS=HIGH? I knew it was on something...

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  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Atreyu on Fri Nov 17 06:42:06 2023
    "Something" happened to Windows 10 where NTVDM/DOS is broken or
    unreliable for running RG.

    Hello again!
    Man are you right there, I got the latest iso release of windows 10
    all kinds of MTVDM errors sooooooooooo back to windows 7 and soon as
    it was install all the troubles were gone.



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  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Exodus on Fri Nov 17 06:44:33 2023
    Did you turn on NTVDM legecy options for the dos prompt in Win10?

    Hello
    As stated before in a message, I downloaded the latest win10 iso.
    All I got was MTVDM errors so back to win7 and loaded RG fired
    up like a charm!

    Thanks...



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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Fri Nov 17 08:52:33 2023
    On 17 Nov 23 06:36:23, Havok said the following to Atreyu:

    By the way was on your board yesterday, looking good!

    Thanks,

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
    * Origin: Joey, do you like movies about gladiators? (25:25/5)
  • From Havok@25:1/116 to Atreyu on Fri Nov 17 20:07:46 2023
    By the way was on your board yesterday, looking good!

    And yes I want that zip file you use for your login shuttle

    Thanks,

    No, thank you!



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