• UNIX on 486 boxes...

    From paulie420@25:1/104 to All on Sun Feb 18 21:03:06 2024
    Hey Metro rockers - I posted another sucky video this weekend... jimmying Minix onto a 486/66DX. If thats yer kinda bag, come on by and give a sub and a like... I'm tryin over here. :P

    https://youtu.be/y3zlb7SrI0I?si=xrC8PrrzEZu8t7PM



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  • From DaveW@25:1/125 to paulie420 on Wed Feb 21 22:45:54 2024
    Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: paulie420 to All on Sun Feb 18 2024 09:03 pm

    Hey Metro rockers - I posted another sucky video this weekend... jimmying Minix onto a 486/66DX. If thats yer kinda bag, come on by and give a sub and a like... I'm tryin over here. :P

    https://youtu.be/y3zlb7SrI0I?si=xrC8PrrzEZu8t7PM



    Paulie,
    Sounds interesting to me!! Not too many people messing with 486 computers on youtube. There are a few but there is room for more of that era of content!!! :)

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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Davew on Thu Feb 22 06:12:06 2024
    Sounds interesting to me!! Not too many people messing with 486 comput on youtube. There are a few but there is room for more of that era of content!!! :)

    Back in the day, I installed Win98 on a 486DX4/75, it took 48 HOURS to install, but it ran.

    ... Ho! Ha! Guard! Turn! Parry! Dodge! Spin! Ha! Thrust!

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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to DaveW on Thu Feb 22 19:02:49 2024
    Sounds interesting to me!! Not too many people messing with 486 computers on youtube. There are a few but there is room for more of that era of content!!! :)

    Yea - I'm kinda stoked b/c... trying to build a YT channel, I was doing lots of [boring, stupid] 'installing arch' 'hyprland customization' 'nixos basics' videos, as they do well from people searching for help - a couple went 'mini-viral' and got 70k views so I made more... BUT, the 486 series has seemed to been received by BETTER viewers; ones who subscribe, enjoy the content/channel and interact in comments - so, I'm stoked to start doing more videos of all the retro-equipment that I love.

    One 'neat' thing about my collection is while a lot of it IS retro-computing, I also collect 'mantiques' - I intend to highlight some of that stuff on the channel, too! Thanks for yer kind words!



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  • From DaveW@25:1/125 to Exodus on Fri Feb 23 23:46:14 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Exodus to Davew on Thu Feb 22 2024 06:12 am

    Back in the day, I installed Win98 on a 486DX4/75, it took 48 HOURS to install, but it ran.

    Doing things like that back then was so fun!!!! I dont think i ever ran anything close to that on a 486.. I hated Windows 3.x so i was rocking the MS-DOS!!!!

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  • From DaveW@25:1/125 to paulie420 on Fri Feb 23 23:49:05 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: paulie420 to DaveW on Thu Feb 22 2024 07:02 pm

    Paulie,
    Have you seen Michael MJD?? He makes a lot of video that would be similiar..

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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to DaveW on Sun Feb 25 07:35:14 2024
    Have you seen Michael MJD?? He makes a lot of video that would be similiar..

    Yea, I have; I like some of his content, but am going a bit more for something usable... well, that's what I keep telling myself anyway.

    Had a nightmare yesterday morning; spilled an entire 24oz of water in the Dolch keyboard!! LOL - it killed my Saturday plans of working on the Dolch as I am forced to let it dry out for 48hrs since I know it'll be fine if I make sure its completely dry.

    :/



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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Paulie420 on Sun Feb 25 12:26:22 2024
    Hey Metro rockers - I posted another sucky video this weekend... jimmying Minix onto a 486/66DX. If thats yer kinda bag, come on by and give a sub an like... I'm tryin over here. :P

    Very kewl Paulie420

    Keep up with the good stuff!

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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Exodus on Sun Feb 25 12:28:43 2024
    Back in the day, I installed Win98 on a 486DX4/75, it took 48 HOURS to install, but it ran.

    Now your going way back, makes me miss the old day, NOT!

    Doesn't even make me want to go out to the garage and unpack my old
    dell 486!

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Paulie420 on Sun Feb 25 21:36:48 2024
    On 22 Feb 24 19:02:49, Paulie420 said the following to Davew:

    One 'neat' thing about my collection is while a lot of it IS retro-computing I also collect 'mantiques' - I intend to highlight some of that stuff on the channel, too! Thanks for yer kind words!

    Retro-computing........Pffffffffffffffffft.

    I had a 486 tower from '93 till..... ohhhhhh probably 2000, 2001, with OS/2 Warp 3 as that was THE system of choice to run a multi-line Renegade board averaging around a hundred calls a day. It was the only system that could seriously keep up with callers slamming it at midnight to play the doorgames.

    I was a huge fan of OS/2 and that 486 for close to a decade, while every one
    of my friends at the time were into Windows 95, 98, all that. I dated a chick that emancipated herself from her parents and rented a Victorian townhome with no furniture whatsoever except a dining room table, a Technics stereo system and a 486 mooching these "MP3" files from weird IRC chatrooms... priorities.

    I laughed it all off that it was all fads, the Internet was a fad, my 486 with OS/2 will need to be pried away from my cold dead hands. And all the problems with OS/2 for a decade which could be a whole different subject altogether.

    Exodus gets tired of the story but in the summer of 2001 I was shown Windows Server 2000 with its greatly matured Internet, VPN, tape backups etc that just worked without screwing around with halfassed shareware/commercial crap on OS/2 and I just moved on...... literally ditched OS/2 overnight for Windows 2000 and in the next year, XP which is what Darkrealms still runs on today.

    I love my Tandy and 80's/90's but do not miss the days of the 486 and Pentium motherboards with memory that OS/2 was flakely with and obviously Windows 95/98/NT was out of the question. So I had quirky video cards and problems
    with hard drives, controllers, etc. Trying to get LAN and later USB working
    was a nightmare. Eventually all that crap had to go for a designed-for-Windows computer. Then as if by magic, all of the hardware problems stopped.

    All of this now-cool retro nonsense was an absolute burdon in the 90's, very annoying, "something" to mess around with, am glad those days are behind me.

    Atreyu

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  • From DaveW@25:1/125 to paulie420 on Sun Feb 25 22:36:26 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: paulie420 to DaveW on Sun Feb 25 2024 07:35 am

    Had a nightmare yesterday morning; spilled an entire 24oz of water in the Dolch keyboard!! LOL - it killed my Saturday plans of working on the Dolch as I am forced to let it dry out for 48hrs since I know it'll be fine if I make sure its completely dry.

    :/
    Hopefully it will be fine.. just give it time to dry out!!! :)

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  • From Exodus@25:25/5 to Atreyu on Sun Feb 25 22:57:30 2024
    Exodus gets tired of the story but in the summer of 2001 I was shown Windows

    hahahaah

    OS/2 will need to be pried away from my cold dead hands. And all the problem

    I miss OS/2. It's just not the same anymore. I know ArcaOS is okay, but OS/2 WARP 3 Connect was the shit. I had boot manager installed, all was well. Miss those days.

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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Havok on Sun Feb 25 20:14:42 2024
    Hey Metro rockers - I posted another sucky video this weekend...

    Very kewl Paulie420
    Keep up with the good stuff!

    Thanks for kind words; I will!



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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Sun Feb 25 20:18:57 2024
    I had a 486 tower from '93 till..... ohhhhhh probably 2000, 2001, with OS/2 Warp 3 as that was THE system of choice to run a multi-line
    Renegade board averaging around a hundred calls a day. It was the only system that could seriously keep up with callers slamming it at
    midnight to play the doorgames.

    Man - I wish ew got the same 100 callers now as then; I do tip 50, but man... yer talking dirty to me...

    I was a huge fan of OS/2 and that 486 for close to a decade, while every one of my friends at the time were into Windows 95, 98, all that. I
    dated a chick that emancipated herself from her parents and rented a Victorian townhome with no furniture whatsoever except a dining room table, a Technics stereo system and a 486 mooching these "MP3" files
    from weird IRC chatrooms... priorities.

    LOL - I was in IRC, too; but I wasn't mooching MP3s. >:P My bots were a bit more sinister... we didn't have the websites we do today, and all.

    I laughed it all off that it was all fads, the Internet was a fad, my
    486 with OS/2 will need to be pried away from my cold dead hands.

    Same... same.

    Exodus gets tired of the story but in the summer of 2001 I was shown Windows Server 2000 with its greatly matured Internet, VPN, tape
    backups etc

    Dude - Windows 2000 was my choice around that time, too - Much better than 98 and didn't get in the weeds like NT did. I was a 2000 guy thru and thru.

    All of this now-cool retro nonsense was an absolute burdon in the 90's, very annoying, "something" to mess around with, am glad those days are behind me.

    Are they???



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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to DaveW on Sun Feb 25 20:19:37 2024
    [Dolch PAC 60 water in the keyboard debacle...]
    Hopefully it will be fine.. just give it time to dry out!!! :)

    I know - I just hate that I had to throw away a couple days of working on the project... UGH.



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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Paulie420 on Mon Feb 26 07:56:24 2024
    On 25 Feb 24 20:18:57, Paulie420 said the following to Atreyu:

    Dude - Windows 2000 was my choice around that time, too - Much better than and didn't get in the weeds like NT did. I was a 2000 guy thru and thru.

    Same here. For the first time Windows "just worked". The Ntbackup and remote access capabilities sold it for me. On OS/2 these were and probably still are so halfassed.

    We know XP took it to the next level and its that which Darkrealms can only remain on, many doors and programs, overall reliability just is not the same
    on anything newer. Microsoft did "something" to NTVDM after XP. I cannot
    prove it but am convinced they did.

    I must be very careful writing this because we may have a resident know-it-all Professor here who loves to troll and pounce on anything XP because "You will be hacked tomorrow". Guess I better watch out!

    All of this now-cool retro nonsense was an absolute burdon in the 90's, very annoying, "something" to mess around with, am glad those days are behind me.

    Are they???

    Let me put this another way. I don't miss the 486 and Pentium boards. The hardware I'm running now is professional grade stuff. I'm not going through 90's-era PSU, motherboard or stupid hard drive problems EVER again especially when mine is a major Fidohub many Sysops expect to have reliable service.

    I don't get nostalgic for Darkrealms because its not nostalgia. Its still in 2024 a daily part of my tech-life to RDP into that XP virtual machine, login to my board, see who called, read messages, trade silly banter. Log off, come back again later. I'm typing this now before I head off to work... in a 80x25 session, the same Renegade message editor, same batchfiles used for decades.

    Its not nostalgia if its still in daily use, just like cassettes for my car or the toaster in my kitchen purchased in '97.

    Atreyu

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Mon Feb 26 15:21:50 2024
    On 25 Feb 24 22:57, Exodus said the following to Atreyu:

    I miss OS/2. It's just not the same anymore. I know ArcaOS is okay, but OS/2 WARP 3 Connect was the shit. I had boot manager installed, all was wel Miss those days.

    Thats what I was running, Warp 3.

    Atreyu

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  • From Exodus@25:25/5 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 26 16:13:45 2024
    the toaster in my kitchen purchased in '97.

    You make that much to have bought a toaster in 1997?! You rich man you! haha

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Mon Feb 26 19:21:56 2024
    On 26 Feb 24 16:13, Exodus said the following to Atreyu:

    the toaster in my kitchen purchased in '97.

    You make that much to have bought a toaster in 1997?! You rich man you! hah

    Too bad the Playboy boxers didn't hold up.... one fart and the rabbits died.

    Atreyu

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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 26 19:55:45 2024
    Thats what I was running, Warp 3.


    Laughing God I can't stand it, two topics on running warp and d*mm it
    now I'm buging to go to the garage and find the box with the 486MX

    Sorry young peeps, but still love the good old day DOS, Win3.1 , 3.0
    sucked and of course Warp.

    Thanks again buddy...

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Mon Feb 26 20:50:31 2024
    On 26 Feb 24 19:55:45, Havok said the following to Atreyu:

    Sorry young peeps, but still love the good old day DOS, Win3.1 , 3.0
    sucked and of course Warp.

    Frig... Windows 3.x was what drove me to go OS/2...

    Atreyu

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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 26 20:15:51 2024
    You make that much to have bought a toaster in 1997?! You rich man you! ha

    Too bad the Playboy boxers didn't hold up.... one fart and the rabbits died

    ahhahaha

    ... not after devouring so many maidens of the valley.

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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 26 23:15:33 2024
    Frig... Windows 3.x was what drove me to go OS/2...

    DESQview is what drove me to OS/2. :)

    ... That rap tune is really the Polyvtsian Dance #2 by Borodin.

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Mon Feb 26 23:46:02 2024
    On 26 Feb 24 23:15:33, Exodus said the following to Atreyu:

    Frig... Windows 3.x was what drove me to go OS/2...

    DESQview is what drove me to OS/2. :)

    I wish that one had morphed into its own OS,

    Atreyu

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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Atreyu on Mon Feb 26 22:03:09 2024
    Let me put this another way. I don't miss the 486 and Pentium boards. The hardware I'm running now is professional grade stuff. I'm not going through 90's-era PSU, motherboard or stupid hard drive problems EVER again especially when mine is a major Fidohub many Sysops expect to
    have reliable service.

    OMG - I do. 110% ; they were easier days... I remember when my 486/25 was FAST.... and then 50mhz - and then Cyrix. Man, those were the days - when CPU upgrades meant something. We can now live on CPUs for years...



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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Exodus on Mon Feb 26 22:05:58 2024
    DESQview is what drove me to OS/2. :)

    I never made that jump - maybe I should have... I'm hearing everyone that LOVED OS/2, but I remained on MS-DOS and Desqview until Desqview/X came out... maybe I just couldn't afford [or steal] then next coolest thing. :P



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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Paulie420 on Tue Feb 27 06:11:30 2024
    FAST.... and then 50mhz - and then Cyrix. Man, those were the days - when C
    ^^^^^^^^^^^

    I thought I was the only one that ever brought one of their processors.

    ... Life being what it is, I dream of revenge

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Paulie420 on Tue Feb 27 06:38:13 2024
    On 26 Feb 24 22:03:09, Paulie420 said the following to Atreyu:

    OMG - I do. 110% ; they were easier days... I remember when my 486/25 was FAST.... and then 50mhz - and then Cyrix. Man, those were the days - when CP upgrades meant something. We can now live on CPUs for years...

    Speed wasn't really what I cared about as it was Ram and running OS/2.

    But yes... unlikely I'll ever exceed the I7 here. Maybe we kinda peaked at
    how fast we can go, at least for now or until someone invents a new
    production method.

    The BBS is on Vmware and hardly makes a blip in the CPU/Disk metrics.

    Atreyu

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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Atreyu on Tue Feb 27 05:33:02 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Atreyu to Paulie420 on Mon Feb 26 2024 07:56 am

    Hey, since you're running XP, have you seen legacyupdate.net? I haven't tried it out myself just yet because I found it recently, but it looks like it might make running the old Windowseseses easier.
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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Exodus on Tue Feb 27 05:38:26 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Exodus to Atreyu on Mon Feb 26 2024 11:15 pm

    DESQview is what drove me to OS/2. :)

    Meaning it was good or bad? :)

    For a while there I had a copy of a "hacked" OS/2 Warp where it was just the CLI. It was 3 disks to install, and basically just DOS without the 640k barrier. I ran DESQview in that. It ran really well, but the only downfall was that a lot of demos and other programs would actually check for emm386 and would only run if it was there. Well, you didn't need emm386, and you couldn't run it, so you couldn't watch that demo! That made me go back to DOS :/.

    Wish I could find that CLI-only OS/2 Warp again, though.
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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Exodus on Tue Feb 27 05:41:48 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Exodus to Paulie420 on Tue Feb 27 2024 06:11 am

    I thought I was the only one that ever brought one of their processors.

    Cyrix made the awesome-ass 486dx4-133 clone labeled as 5x86. It was a very nice chip for the time and I sold a lot of them when I worked at a computer store for a short time.
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Atreyu on Tue Feb 27 07:53:16 2024
    Speed wasn't really what I cared about as it was Ram and running OS/2.

    Agreed with my in the gargage that 486DX40 I paid at the time 1200.00
    for 16 megs of ram.

    But, but they were still good times.

    Just a thought.

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Phigan on Tue Feb 27 09:09:20 2024
    On 27 Feb 24 05:33:02, Phigan said the following to Atreyu:

    Hey, since you're running XP, have you seen legacyupdate.net? I haven't trie it out myself just yet because I found it recently, but it looks like it mig make running the old Windowseseses easier.

    Haven't seen it, my XP instance was patched long ago as far as could (care) to make it.

    Atreyu

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Tue Feb 27 09:10:57 2024
    On 27 Feb 24 07:53:16, Havok said the following to Atreyu:

    Agreed with my in the gargage that 486DX40 I paid at the time 1200.00
    for 16 megs of ram.

    But, but they were still good times.

    I think my 486 cost upwards to the tune of $2,000+ CDN, with 12 meg Ram, 400mb harddrive, and 4xPanasonic CD-ROM drives attached to a Sound Blaster Pro.

    Atreyu

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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Atreyu on Tue Feb 27 10:43:28 2024
    I think my 486 cost upwards to the tune of $2,000+ CDN, with 12 meg Ram, 40 harddrive, and 4xPanasonic CD-ROM drives attached to a Sound Blaster Pro.

    (Smile) like I stated before, the good old days!

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Tue Feb 27 16:41:53 2024
    On 27 Feb 24 10:43:28, Havok said the following to Atreyu:

    I think my 486 cost upwards to the tune of $2,000+ CDN, with 12 meg Ram, 40 harddrive, and 4xPanasonic CD-ROM drives attached to a Sound Blaster Pro.

    (Smile) like I stated before, the good old days!

    Had a choice during purchase either to get OS/2 or Windows NT 3.1.

    If it wasn't for my lack of skill at the time to make Fossil work on NT things would of been different.

    Imagining the upgrade path... NT 3.1, 3.5, 3.51, 2000, XP... yikes

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Atreyu on Tue Feb 27 19:53:18 2024
    Had a choice during purchase either to get OS/2 or Windows NT 3.1.

    If it wasn't for my lack of skill at the time to make Fossil work on NT thi would of been different.

    Imagining the upgrade path... NT 3.1, 3.5, 3.51, 2000, XP... yikes

    Laughing I went the path of NT 3.1 and up but always played with OS/2
    While I look back I wish I would have just stayed with OS/2 I would
    have saved a lot of money.

    Also I didn't know what a sick prick Bill Gates is then, I have 9 PC's
    and four laptops around all but one is Windows, the more I read about
    Bill Gates the more I move to linux. I'm about 98% linux now.

    Just a thought!

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Tue Feb 27 22:18:50 2024
    But yes... unlikely I'll ever exceed the I7 here. Maybe we kinda peaked at how fast we can go, at least for now or until someone invents a new production method.

    I think I was reading AMD was working on a 6GHz. processor.

    ... He has a train of thought. You have a tricycle...

    --- Renegade v1.35α/DOS
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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Wed Feb 28 02:16:49 2024
    On 27 Feb 24 19:53:18, Havok said the following to Atreyu:

    Laughing I went the path of NT 3.1 and up but always played with OS/2
    While I look back I wish I would have just stayed with OS/2 I would
    have saved a lot of money.

    Welllllllll.... I remember that I had to buy hardware that was OS/2-friendly, which if I remember was slightly more expensive than just the average
    hardware that would work perfectly with Windows.

    Those ATI video cards and Mach32, Mach64... whatever the card was. The one which the diehard OS/2 community swore up and down was the "right" videocard to buy, I bought one. And it lasted about two weeks with its bugridden mess of drivers. Ohhhh it has to be my OS/2, did you try reinstalling? Repairing?

    Yes, and I can tie my shoes as well... worked perfectly fine in VGA mode but not the native ATI modes. Ohh well what about 8514? Yup, worked fine in that but didn't enjoy watching how sloooooooooowwwww that was. I wanted the ATI that I *paid* for. And the wonderful OS/2 community was crickets chirping. Then someone popped up, maybe its your motherboard? You need a motherboard that is OS/2 friendly... I never recalled needing a Windows-friendly board.

    It was total complete nonsense like this, along with hard drive controller problems, lack of USB support at the time and watching Windows 2000 do everything perfectly right out the box that made my final decision.

    I miss the OS/2 interface but not the OS/2 problems.

    Also I didn't know what a sick prick Bill Gates is then, I have 9 PC's
    and four laptops around all but one is Windows, the more I read about
    Bill Gates the more I move to linux. I'm about 98% linux now.

    Unfortunately this is a Windows household for the time being,

    Atreyu

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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Wed Feb 28 02:17:11 2024
    On 27 Feb 24 22:18:50, Exodus said the following to Atreyu:

    But yes... unlikely I'll ever exceed the I7 here. Maybe we kinda peaked at how fast we can go, at least for now or until someone invents a new production method.

    I think I was reading AMD was working on a 6GHz. processor.

    Renders porn in 4k? 8k?

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Atreyu on Wed Feb 28 07:21:00 2024
    Those ATI video cards and Mach32, Mach64... whatever the card was. The one which the diehard OS/2 community swore up and down was the "right" videocar to buy, I bought one. And it lasted about two weeks with its bugridden mess drivers. Ohhhh it has to be my OS/2, did you try reinstalling? Repairing?


    Been there done that, man if I had all the money I bought cappy hardware
    and mostly software that came from over seas I'd have a load of cash
    right now.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Havok on Wed Feb 28 09:09:14 2024
    On 28 Feb 24 07:21:00, Havok said the following to Atreyu:

    Been there done that, man if I had all the money I bought cappy hardware
    and mostly software that came from over seas I'd have a load of cash
    right now.

    Same here... I just gave up and hopped on the Microsoft bandwagon.

    Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Atreyu on Wed Feb 28 10:20:27 2024
    Can't beat 'em, join 'em.

    Laughing sad, but true in too many things in like!

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Wed Feb 28 06:11:15 2024
    Welllllllll.... I remember that I had to buy hardware that was OS/2-friendl which if I remember was slightly more expensive than just the average hardware that would work perfectly with Windows.

    I always hated looking for OS/2 drivers for stuff. I used to come back with no name CD-ROM drives and then spend days looking for a driver for it.

    ... You know what they say about paradigms: shift happens

    --- Renegade v1.35α/DOS
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  • From Exodus@25:25/0 to Atreyu on Wed Feb 28 06:11:28 2024
    Renders porn in 4k? 8k?

    I think 12k. :)

    ... And who decides what is just? Who decides what is right?

    --- Renegade v1.35α/DOS
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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Wed Feb 28 16:38:15 2024
    On 28 Feb 24 06:11:15, Exodus said the following to Atreyu:

    Welllllllll.... I remember that I had to buy hardware that was OS/2-friendl which if I remember was slightly more expensive than just the average hardware that would work perfectly with Windows.

    I always hated looking for OS/2 drivers for stuff. I used to come back with no name CD-ROM drives and then spend days looking for a driver for it.

    For me it was something to do with 6.4gb hard drives. Some OS/2 driver that needed an update which ended up breaking something with Chkdsk or Hpfs or something that resulted in reinstall and restoring from backup.

    The same drive which took Windows 2000 with no problems...

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From Atreyu@25:25/5 to Exodus on Wed Feb 28 16:39:28 2024
    On 28 Feb 24 06:11:28, Exodus said the following to Atreyu:

    Renders porn in 4k? 8k?

    I think 12k. :)

    It will be fun to watch Windows completely max it out with a stupid update process or dot-net runtime or defender or whatevertheF.

    Atreyu

    --- Renegade vY2Ka2
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  • From paulie420@25:1/104 to Exodus on Wed Feb 28 17:47:46 2024
    FAST.... and then 50mhz - and then Cyrix. Man, those were the days - wh

    I thought I was the only one that ever brought one of their processors.

    Nah - many 486 owner who wanted to goto Pentium+ w/o spending the Inter $$$.



    |07p|15AULIE|1142|07o
    |08.........

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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Havok on Thu Feb 29 17:18:02 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Havok to Atreyu on Tue Feb 27 2024 07:53 pm

    Bill Gates the more I move to linux. I'm about 98% linux now.

    He now sells McDonalds all their potatoes.
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Atreyu on Thu Feb 29 17:24:48 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Atreyu to Havok on Wed Feb 28 2024 09:09 am

    Same here... I just gave up and hopped on the Microsoft bandwagon.

    I'm not a fanboi of any OS and consider myself a computer enthusiast. Not too long ago, Windows really pissed me off. It essentially deleted a file without me wanting it to or it asking me. In Windows's words, the file was "quarantined", but it was on a NAS share, and releasing the file failed. That day I shut off that Windows machine and haven't turned it on since.

    There are many other computers in the house, and plenty of them are Windows... but not the ones I keep on all the time anymore :). I do have a few laptops with Windows that I use when I have to, but usually avoid them too.

    Maybe some day I'll get over it and let Windows back on my good side... but it might take a while. Btw, typing this on an Atari 800XL.
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Phigan on Fri Mar 1 06:29:27 2024
    He now sells McDonalds all their potatoes.

    Good old Bill Gates and GMO, makes you wonder China & Russia both don't
    allow GMO in their country.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Havok on Sat Mar 2 09:07:52 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Havok to Phigan on Fri Mar 01 2024 06:29 am

    Good old Bill Gates and GMO, makes you wonder China & Russia both don't
    allow GMO in their country.

    Yeah, and what worries me is he's got crazy ideas about feeding chemicals to the masses.
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Phigan on Sun Mar 3 13:08:52 2024
    Yeah, and what worries me is he's got crazy ideas about feeding chemicals t the masses.

    You bet, glad we're on the same page, have you ever read about three
    country that have a stnding arrest warrent on Gates that he can't even
    inter there country.

    As I said a real sick prick.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Phigan@25:1/118 to Havok on Mon Mar 4 20:47:11 2024
    Re: Re: UNIX on 486 boxes...
    By: Havok to Phigan on Sun Mar 03 2024 01:08 pm

    country that have a stnding arrest warrent on Gates that he can't even
    inter there country.

    Haha, no. I'll have to look this up :).
    --- SBBSecho 3.15-Linux
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Phigan on Tue Mar 5 12:37:17 2024
    Haha, no. I'll have to look this up :).


    Well two countries he and the ex wife were giving active polio virus
    the other country was getting the active syphilis virus.

    All three countries want him and the ex for murder.

    I wish someone would ship his a** over to one of them.
    Come a con man school dropout on the world health board give me
    a break.

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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  • From Shitty@25:25/0 to Havok on Wed Mar 13 23:43:18 2024
    Also I didn't know what a sick prick Bill Gates is then, I have 9 PC's
    and four laptops around all but one is Windows, the more I read about
    Bill Gates the more I move to linux. I'm about 98% linux now.

    Windows is good for people who are into video games (let's say "kids" lol)

    I enjoy using Linux! I use Debian & Ubuntu and I'll never go back to... the guy who experiments on orphan children in India.

    --- Renegade v1.35α/DOS
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  • From Havok@25:1/115 to Shitty on Thu Mar 14 08:24:26 2024
    I enjoy using Linux! I use Debian & Ubuntu and I'll never go back to... t guy who experiments on orphan children in India.


    Same here, Debian & Ubuntu

    Also I see you know more about Bill Gates then most, Glad to hear it!

    --- Renegade v1.33/DOS
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