Along with y Mystic BBS, I was thinking about setting up a gopher server. Partly becuse I like a challenge, but also as a place to store and offer for download a LOT of music from my old recording studio.

I am trying to install Bucktooth on a Linux machne, but it's been a LONG time since I have messed with Linux and Perl so I think I have it set up but I don't even know if it is running or not. Have any of you had experience with gopher servers? (I think we need more of them, by the way).

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Along with y Mystic BBS, I was thinking about setting up a gopher server. Partly becuse I like a challenge, but also as a place to store and offer for download a LOT of music from my old recording studio.

I am trying to install Bucktooth on a Linux machne, but it's been a LONG time since I have messed with Linux and Perl so I think I have it set up but I don't even know if it is running or not. Have any of you had experience with gopher servers? (I think we need more of them, by the way).

I use Gophernicus.
Another is gopher... dangit I can't remember the name.



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Imagine being able to offer access to FTN networks, email, IRC/MRC and web/gopher space for users as well. It'd be interesting to add that level of community to BBSing.

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Alonzo wrote to All <=-

Along with y Mystic BBS, I was thinking about setting up a gopher
server. Partly becuse I like a challenge, but also as a place to store
and offer for download a LOT of music from my old recording studio.

Synchronet offers a Gopher server, but it only serves system content.
What I'd really like to find is a way to make user web/gopher spaces
using Synchronet or Mystic. Not sure how to handle getting files to the
web root and managing the URL redirects, though.

I've been playing with tildes, user spaces where people can share
gopher and gemini pages, public html spaces served with a
website.com/~username URL (hence the name)

Imagine being able to offer access to FTN networks, email, IRC/MRC and web/gopher space for users as well. It'd be interesting to add that
level of community to BBSing.



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I am trying to install Bucktooth on a Linux machne, but it's been a LONG t since I have messed with Linux and Perl so I think I have it set up but I don't
even know if it is running or not. Have any of you had experience with gop servers? (I think we need more of them, by the way).

I have also installed bucktooth on my bbs server (RPi3B+) and works fine. It's a bit tricky to install and had to search for some stuff but i finally made it.

It's not an easy task to create a gopher server and make a gopher site, but with a little digging you can manage it. Start from here:

gopher://gopher.floodgap.com/1/buck

Read about the gopher protocol and gophermap syntax and you can also use one of my mods for mystic to maintain a gopher site. Also for debugging the gophermap pages you can use Lynx to view the source or my own gopher browser for android, which can save gopher pages:

gopher://andr01d.zapto.org:7070/gophrite
or
http://andr01d.zapto.org:8080/gophrite

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I have also installed bucktooth on my bbs server (RPi3B+) and works
fine. It's a bit tricky to install and had to search for some stuff but
i finally made it.

Thanks for the tips. Part of my problem is the fact that's been a long time since I've used Linux. I will keep trying.

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Re: Re: Gopher servers
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Alonzo on Sat Mar 25 2023 08:36 am

Alonzo wrote to All <=-

Along with y Mystic BBS, I was thinking about setting up a gopher server. Partly becuse I like a challenge, but also as a place to store and offer for download a LOT of music from my old recording studio.

Synchronet offers a Gopher server, but it only serves system content.
What I'd really like to find is a way to make user web/gopher spaces
using Synchronet or Mystic. Not sure how to handle getting files to the
web root and managing the URL redirects, though.

Take a look at exec/gopherservice.js. It wouldn't take much to add your own static/custom content. User content is a bit of a sticky issue due to security and liability concerns, but of course its all doable if you're determined to do it. If you do add user-enabled content, I'd just stick with gopher and not do that for http/https however.
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your own static/custom content. User content is a bit of a sticky
issue due to security and liability concerns, but of course its all
doable if you're determined to do it. If you do add user-enabled
content, I'd just stick with gopher and not do that for http/https
however.

How would user content be any different from having message bases
available?

I have gopher server built into talisman, and it allows users to keep a
blog (or phlog or glog or whatever you call it) It's just text, which is
the same as message bases.

I'm guessing user content in synchronet means files / images as well?

Andrew


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Re: Re: Gopher servers
By: apam to Digital Man on Wed Mar 29 2023 09:54 pm

your own static/custom content. User content is a bit of a sticky
issue due to security and liability concerns, but of course its all doable if you're determined to do it. If you do add user-enabled
content, I'd just stick with gopher and not do that for http/https however.

How would user content be any different from having message bases
available?

I have gopher server built into talisman, and it allows users to keep a
blog (or phlog or glog or whatever you call it) It's just text, which is
the same as message bases.

I'm guessing user content in synchronet means files / images as well?

Right, I was thinking *any* files (e.g. malware), especially wrapped in HTML and served via HTTP (the most common delivery method today). Allowing just anyone to park their web-site on your host/IP is kind of a dangerous thing to do. Gopher is obscure enough it's not likely a big target (if at all), but I do recall about 10 years ago a whacker uploading his entire questionnable web-site to dozens of Synchronet FTP servers and using them as his free virtual web host (files uploaded via FTP are often also availble via HTTP on the same BBS).
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Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Take a look at exec/gopherservice.js. It wouldn't take much to add your own static/custom content.

I'll take a look. At the very least I'd like to have some gopherspace
for the BBS that's not BBS-generated.




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apam wrote to Digital Man <=-

How would user content be any different from having message bases available?

I was thinking about being able to offer users their own gopherspace,
for content *they* would upload.

I have gopher server built into talisman, and it allows users to keep a blog (or phlog or glog or whatever you call it) It's just text, which
is the same as message bases.

Cool! How do the users upload the content, and how is the gopherspace referenced?

I've been playing with Gopher and Gemini, thought gopherspaces would be an interesting feature to add to the BBS, as there's already a server
built-in to Synchronet and it would be relatively low-bandwidth.




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Re: Re: Gopher servers
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Digital Man on Wed Mar 29 2023 06:47 am

Digital Man wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

Take a look at exec/gopherservice.js. It wouldn't take much to add your own static/custom content.

I'll take a look. At the very least I'd like to have some gopherspace
for the BBS that's not BBS-generated.

Yeah, that's pretty straight-forward. See the send_file() function in that file.
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I was thinking about being able to offer users their own gopherspace,
for content *they* would upload.

Cool! How do the users upload the content, and how is the gopherspace referenced?

they don't upload, they use the message editor to enter content for their
blog, then publish the article when they're ready. the content is
displayed in a predefined way, and blogs are accessed via the user page.

the gopher root is static and managed by the filesystem, but the user
content is dynamic.

Andrew


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apam wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

they don't upload, they use the message editor to enter content for
their blog, then publish the article when they're ready. the content is displayed in a predefined way, and blogs are accessed via the user
page.

the gopher root is static and managed by the filesystem, but the user content is dynamic.

Oh, that is very cool!



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