• Changing BBS to 32-bit from 64-bit

    From Alonzo@21:1/130 to All on Sun Jun 18 19:17:08 2023
    Hello everybody - I am wanting to convert my BBS to 32-bit so that I can run doors more easily. Right now I am running the Windows 64-bit version. I have installed the latest 32-bit version of Mystic but is there a way to transfer all of my text files and files and messages and everything over to my 32-bit BBS?

    Is there any way to do this or do I need to set up everythng again from scratch? I'm hoping that I don't need to start from scratch. Thanks, in advance.

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  • From fusion@21:1/616 to Alonzo on Sun Jun 18 21:37:24 2023
    On 18 Jun 2023, Alonzo said the following...

    Hello everybody - I am wanting to convert my BBS to 32-bit so that I can run doors more easily. Right now I am running the Windows 64-bit

    You may be better served in the long run by learning how to install and use this: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/ntvdmx64.html

    Both for the sake of having access to more ram on the machine, and for being able to continue to run your BBS on a supported OS in the future.

    If you're set on Windows 10 32-bit though, I generally just zip the mystic folder and unzip it on the target machine. There's nothing outside of that
    folder that mystic touches by default.

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  • From Mr. Disk@21:1/999 to Alonzo on Sun Jun 18 18:12:34 2023

    Moving over to another arch only effects the binaries, not the data files.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Alonzo on Mon Jun 19 21:23:52 2023
    On 18 Jun 2023 at 07:17p, Alonzo pondered and said...

    Hello everybody - I am wanting to convert my BBS to 32-bit so that I can run doors more easily. Right now I am running the Windows 64-bit
    version. I have installed the latest 32-bit version of Mystic but is
    there a way to transfer all of my text files and files and messages and everything over to my 32-bit BBS?

    You're in for an easy ride, backup everything first!

    Assuming you are you have a 32 bit OS installed you can essentially copy
    all of your Mystic across to the new system.

    Next step is to update the binary files of your (now old) 64bit Mystic to the 32bit versions...

    Grab a 32 bit of Mystic from the website and unpack the installer files.

    Now assuming your (soon to be updated) version of the 64bit Mystic is sitting in c:\mystic you could run this command

    install replace c:\mystic

    That will update the binaries in the c:\mystic directory and put in the 32 bit ones overwriting the 64 bit ones.

    Once that's done I'd jump into c:\mystic and then run

    mplc -all

    That will recompile your scripts

    check things out with a mystic -ver and you should see 32 bit against the info that comes back.

    Try logging in locally etc. and confirm all is well

    The you can restart MIS, check your OS has firewall ports open to MIS for your telnet, binkP port etc.. and you should be good to go.

    If you were moving from a linux to a windows OS you would need to worry about file paths and changing the paths in Mystic and in your filebases but if it's 64 to 32 bit windows it's much easier.

    Hope that helps

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  • From Alonzo@21:1/130 to fusion on Mon Jun 19 11:49:16 2023
    You may be better served in the long run by learning how to install and use this: http://www.columbia.edu/~em36/ntvdmx64.html
    If you're set on Windows 10 32-bit though, I generally just zip the
    mystic folder and unzip it on the target machine. There's nothing

    OK, thanks for the advice.

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  • From Alonzo@21:1/130 to Avon on Mon Jun 19 11:55:30 2023
    Assuming you are you have a 32 bit OS installed you can essentially copy all of your Mystic across to the new system.

    Next step is to update the binary files of your (now old) 64bit Mystic
    to the 32bit versions...

    Grab a 32 bit of Mystic from the website and unpack the installer files.

    Now assuming your (soon to be updated) version of the 64bit Mystic is sitting in c:\mystic you could run this command

    install replace c:\mystic

    That will update the binaries in the c:\mystic directory and put in the
    32 bit ones overwriting the 64 bit ones.

    OK, thanks a lot. I will give this a try.

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  • From esc@21:4/173 to Alonzo on Mon Jun 19 20:29:20 2023
    Hello everybody - I am wanting to convert my BBS to 32-bit so that I can run doors more easily. Right now I am running the Windows 64-bit
    version. I have installed the latest 32-bit version of Mystic but is
    there a way to transfer all of my text files and files and messages and everything over to my 32-bit BBS?

    Hey Alonzo, are you going to use a 32-bit version of Windows? That's the key, really. You can use NTVDMx as others have pointed out but there are some compatibility issues with certain doors.

    But at the end of the day if you're using a 64-bit OS, using 32-bit Mystic won't make any difference as far as doors are concerned.

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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to esc on Tue Jun 20 20:53:06 2023
    On 19 Jun 2023 at 08:29p, esc pondered and said...

    But at the end of the day if you're using a 64-bit OS, using 32-bit
    Mystic won't make any difference as far as doors are concerned.

    Yep agreed, for it to really work well he'd want to be on a 32bit OS also.

    Kerr Avon [Blake's 7] 'I'm not expendable, I'm not stupid and I'm not going' avon[at]bbs.nz | bbs.nz | fsxnet.nz

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  • From Alonzo@21:1/130 to esc on Tue Jun 20 16:59:08 2023
    Hey Alonzo, are you going to use a 32-bit version of Windows? That's the key, really. You can use NTVDMx as others have pointed out but there are some compatibility issues with certain doors.

    Yes, I was going to use a 32-bit version of Windows. I THOUGHT I had one, but I don't so I am going to stick with the 64-bit version for now. Someday I may try moving it all to Linux. I'm not sure if there's any advantage to doing that though.

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