• SpaceX Crew Dragon Demo-2

    From Gluon@21:1/151 to All on Sat May 30 17:51:32 2020
    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft later today?

    This is going to be the first manned mission launched from the United States since the last Shuttle flight in 2011. It's also going to be the first ever manned launch from SpaceX and it's scheduled to 19:22 UTC.

    You can already follow it here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIZsnKGV8TE

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Gluon on Sat May 30 14:20:00 2020
    Hello Gluon!

    ** On Saturday 30.05.20 - 17:51, Gluon wrote to All:

    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft later today?

    This is going to be the first manned mission launched from the United States since the last Shuttle flight in 2011. It's also going to be the first ever manned launch from SpaceX and it's scheduled to 19:22 UTC.


    I had statisfactorily forgotten about it until you mentioned it! LOL

    I am glad that I live in an area that is not affected by rumbling rockets
    and heavy traffic nor witness the polluting of the atmosphere.

    Personally, I would rather see the great resources that are being poured
    into space experiments not divested from the humans beings struggling to
    stay alive on this planet.

    But.. rich kids will want to play.

    At the time of this writing, the launch is in about 1 hr from now (3:22PM ET). OK, I'll tune in to watch it one way or another. Based on some of
    the feeds I've seen sofar, they are poised to have real-time cameras
    pointed at the crew, and all over the craft.


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  • From Adept@21:2/108 to Gluon on Sat May 30 21:00:00 2020
    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft later today?

    I'm glad I got to see it live (well, live-ish), and glad that it's going
    fairly well, so far. There's still continuing coverage as they do additional tests and what not, so it's still pretty neat, even without the giant rocket bits.

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  • From Alpha@21:4/158 to Gluon on Sat May 30 12:59:36 2020
    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft later today?

    This is going to be the first manned mission launched from the United States since the last Shuttle flight in 2011. It's also going to be the first ever manned launch from SpaceX and it's scheduled to 19:22 UTC.

    Just finished watching the launch! Haven't seen something like that for a
    very long time. Pretty awesome. My son commented on the tech, uniforms,
    etc. -- "thats what we always hoped 2020 would look like!" Pretty awe-inspiring.

    BUT so bizarre how we talk about "self sustaining mars colonies" like it's
    not weird scifi. Totally normal. This planet's broken so I guess we need to find another...


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Gluon on Sat May 30 18:01:00 2020
    Gluon wrote to All <=-

    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew
    Dragon spacecraft later today?

    My wife and I watched it live - and we have had YouTube showing it on
    the Apple TV all afternoon while we've been doing other stuff. :-)

    This is going to be the first manned mission launched from the United States since the last Shuttle flight in 2011. It's also going to be the first ever manned launch from SpaceX and it's scheduled to 19:22 UTC.



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  • From Gluon@21:1/151 to Ogg on Sat May 30 23:19:08 2020
    On 30 May 2020, Ogg said the following...

    I had statisfactorily forgotten about it until you mentioned it! LOL

    Hah, sorry about that. :P

    I am glad that I live in an area that is not affected by rumbling
    rockets and heavy traffic nor witness the polluting of the atmosphere.

    I'm equally lucky, living in a quiet place, where I can still breathe
    cleanish air and listen to the birds.

    Personally, I would rather see the great resources that are being poured into space experiments not divested from the humans beings struggling to stay alive on this planet.

    From a political point of view I agree. There are so many real issues that affect humanity and should have top priority... That said, the technical side is what draws me in.

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  • From Gluon@21:1/151 to Adept on Sat May 30 23:28:12 2020
    On 30 May 2020, Adept said the following...

    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew Dra spacecraft later today?

    I'm glad I got to see it live (well, live-ish), and glad that it's going fairly well, so far. There's still continuing coverage as they do additional tests and what not, so it's still pretty neat, even without
    the giant rocket bits.

    Yeah, it's been flawless so far, almost looks easy. SpaceX has pretty much nailed the Falcon 9, but with a human payload it's always nail biting. I find it amazing how the whole launch, rendezvous and docking is fully automated, especially the docking, which by the way happens tomorrow.

    I agree, it's still pretty neat, as for instance they'll be conducting manual maneuvering tests in orbit, just to make sure it all works, in case they need.

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  • From Gluon@21:1/151 to Alpha on Sat May 30 23:38:06 2020
    On 30 May 2020, Alpha said the following...

    Just finished watching the launch! Haven't seen something like that for a very long time. Pretty awesome. My son commented on the tech, uniforms, etc. -- "thats what we always hoped 2020 would look like!" Pretty awe-inspiring.

    It's so cool how the space suits look like something from a scifi movie, but
    at the same time are fully functional and able to keep them pressurised and
    in good condition. Good that your son also enjoyed it!

    Another neat detail is the fact that they were using Quindar tones during communications. What people usually call "beeps". Those were needed up to the Apollo program, so that relays on Earth could detect the push to talk press/release and alternate between transmit/receive on an half duplex analog connection. However I don't remember listening to those during the Shuttle missions and they're certainly not needed nowadays, so I guess it was down to pure nostalgia. :)

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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Gluon on Sat May 30 20:24:00 2020
    Hello Gluon!

    ** On Saturday 30.05.20 - 23:19, Gluon wrote to Ogg:

    Personally, I would rather see the great resources that are being
    poured into space experiments not divested from the humans beings
    struggling to stay alive on this planet.

    From a political point of view I agree. There are so many real issues
    that affect humanity and should have top priority... That said, the technical side is what draws me in.

    I find the tech side amazing too. The suits seemed bulk-free and the
    helmets looked like they were inspired by many recent sci-fi movies.
    Makes sense to create an attractive look especially if the idea is to go commercial for the future.

    Now we have to wait to see what the next rich boy Bezos will come up with
    for Blue Origin.

    Kudos to Musk for demonstrating that stage 1 rockets can self recover and land on their own. I bet that silenced a lot of old NASA fuddy duddies
    who probably thought that would not be possible.

    Can the stage 2 rocket be recovered? Are they going to use a balloon for that one?

    I used up my basic 4GB data for the month a few days ago so my ISP has toggled me down to under 100Kbps. Trying to follow the live streams was brutal to impossible. I have to wait until Jun 3 for new monthy period
    to reset to the higher 4G LTE speeds on mobile.

    I tried calling the POTS lines to listen in, but they didn't seem to be working.

    Anyway.. despite demonstrating that space tech can advance beyond well
    beyond resuable Shuttle craft, it also points out that the next goal for SpaceX is to keep on doing this as often as possible for more profits.

    I have to wonder how soon the same people who are wowed by these rocket launches would start complaining that the frequency of them is disturbing their quality of peaceful living.

    Today marked the first success launch of two people from a commerial
    company, but there are many of us who still get penalized for exceeding an allotted data quota for the month and get throttled down practically to
    dial up speeds. :(


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  • From Avon@21:1/101 to Gluon on Sun May 31 14:29:50 2020
    On 30 May 2020 at 05:51p, Gluon pondered and said...

    Is anyone going to watch the first crewed test flight of the Crew Dragon spacecraft later today?

    I got up around 6am this morning to watch it, after watching the first
    attempt the other day. It was great to see it happen and I enjoyed the SpaceX coverage of the flight post launch. I may well get up around 5am tomorrow my time to watch the docking with the ISS too :)

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  • From djatropine@21:1/126 to Ogg on Sun May 31 13:44:40 2020
    I have to wonder how soon the same people who are wowed by these
    rocket launches would start complaining that the frequency of them
    is disturbing their quality of peaceful living.

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    ♂♂♂The sound is very relaxing to me.

    I've been to Kennedy Spacfe Cente rfor a rocket launch when I was young.



    IOh and I've always loved the smell.. of model airplane glue.




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  • From Gluon@21:1/151 to Ogg on Sun May 31 09:31:34 2020
    On 30 May 2020, Ogg said the following...

    I find the tech side amazing too. The suits seemed bulk-free and the helmets looked like they were inspired by many recent sci-fi movies. Makes sense to create an attractive look especially if the idea is to go commercial for the future.

    Yeah, it's really outstanding how they look so scifi-like and yet provide the same life support as the old bulky ones. Elon Musk seems to be especially
    good at nailing the marketing. Like you said, when people look at these
    suits, they'll think even them could wear it easily. It's going to help commercial space flights for another set of rich boys, the space tourists. :)

    Can the stage 2 rocket be recovered? Are they going to use a balloon
    for that one?

    I seem to remember reading about a fundamental problem with recovering the second stage, but that would be yet another milestone to save costs. On the other hand, there's Starship, which will be fully reusable, so I don't think they'll spend more R&D money on the Falcon 9.

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  • From Gluon@21:1/151 to Avon on Sun May 31 10:33:46 2020
    On 31 May 2020, Avon said the following...

    I got up around 6am this morning to watch it, after watching the first attempt the other day. It was great to see it happen and I enjoyed the SpaceX coverage of the flight post launch. I may well get up around 5am tomorrow my time to watch the docking with the ISS too :)

    That reminds me when I wake up at 5am in the morning to watch the Australian
    or Japanese Formula 1 races. It takes some commitement.

    I also enjoyed the continued coverage post-launch. As a bit of a space
    geek I'll be watching the docking as well of course. On a side note, for us that enjoy some nostalgia and retro systems, it was cool to listen to the Quindar tones during the ground to spaceship comms as they press the PTT.

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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Gluon on Sun May 31 20:34:00 2020
    On 05-31-20 09:31, Gluon wrote to Ogg <=-


    I seem to remember reading about a fundamental problem with recovering
    the second stage, but that would be yet another milestone to save

    Probably reentry. That would be my guess.

    costs. On the other hand, there's Starship, which will be fully
    reusable, so I don't think they'll spend more R&D money on the Falcon
    9.

    Starship should render Falcon 9 obsolete for most applications.


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  • From Ogg@21:4/106.21 to Gluon on Sun May 31 09:04:00 2020
    Hello Gluon!

    ** On Sunday 31.05.20 - 09:31, Gluon wrote to Ogg:

    I find the tech side amazing too. The suits seemed bulk-free and the
    helmets looked like they were inspired by many recent sci-fi movies.
    Makes sense to create an attractive look especially if the idea is to go
    commercial for the future.

    Yeah, it's really outstanding how they look so scifi-like and yet provide the same life support as the old bulky ones.

    From further reading, I learned that the slim suits are not intended for space-walk use. In otherwords, Bob and Doug were not expected to step outside the capsule, so a complete life-support suit was not required.

    I think the suits are to demonstrate that for traditional transportation
    of humans from one containment vehicle to another, the passengers can
    simply don a star-trekkie jumper to feel like they are doing something special. For this flight, the astro-pilots didn't need anything beyond
    a modest pressure-suit that a jet-pilot might wear.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Gluon on Sun May 31 11:25:00 2020
    Gluon wrote to Adept <=-

    Yeah, it's been flawless so far, almost looks easy. SpaceX has pretty
    much nailed the Falcon 9, but with a human payload it's always nail biting.

    Yeah, after watching Challenger explode watching a manned rocket launch
    makes me apprehensive and excited at the same time.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Gluon on Sun May 31 11:26:00 2020
    Gluon wrote to Alpha <=-

    Another neat detail is the fact that they were using Quindar tones
    during communications. What people usually call "beeps".

    Anyone knows you can't go to space without Beeps!


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Ogg on Sun May 31 11:30:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to Gluon <=-

    I have to wonder how soon the same people who are wowed by these rocket launches would start complaining that the frequency of them is
    disturbing their quality of peaceful living.

    At least now, people can DVR their favorite TV shows instead of complaining
    to NASA that they pre-empted "All in the Family".

    I don't remember Apollo 11, but I do remember watching the lunar rover on Apollo 15, and watch Apollo 17 blast off and splash down.

    I tried to get my daughter to watch yesterday's blast off, thinking it was
    one for posterity, but she wasn't impressed. Maybe when she's older she'll remember that her dad insisted that she watch.

    The camerawork was pretty awesome...


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  • From Jimmy Anderson@21:2/136 to Ogg on Mon Jun 1 12:11:00 2020
    Ogg wrote to Gluon <=-

    Yeah, it's really outstanding how they look so scifi-like and yet provide the same life support as the old bulky ones.

    They reminded me of the First Order Stormtroopers. :-)




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