Well, it was good while it lasted!
I received an email from Google yesterday that my grandfathered free G Suite account will be discontinued as of July 1, 2022.
I've been on this service for what seems like forever. It was originally released as a free service in August of 2006, marketed as "Google Apps
for Your Domain". Google then discontinued their free offering in 2012, but for those of us who had a free account we were grandfathered in.
Who do you use for email for your own domain?
Who do you use for email for your own domain?
Warpslide wrote to All <=-
Well, it was good while it lasted!
I received an email from Google yesterday that my grandfathered free G Suite account will be discontinued as of July 1, 2022.
I'm curious what folks use.
I too used the google free email for a couple of my domains and
customers.
Who do you use for email for your own domain?
I host everything myself at home.
In 2017 I took some of my college grant-money and bought Microsoft
licensing for some things. I have an Exchange email system in the home
rack with other Vmware stuff and a small backup Linux relay in Montreal incase "shit happens"
Everything has worked here for several years now, zero problems.
I too used the google free email for a couple of my domains and customers.
I use my ISP's e-mail. I wouldn't use gmail.
Oh, I dont use my ISP's email - then I'm locked to that ISP no?
I used to do the same thing years ago. I hosted my own email/domain at home from the very beginning. The only reason I gave up and went kicking and screaming to the cloud and Google for email was due to it becoming impossibl to send mail to domains when you were on a carrier DHCP IP range.
of course, but who is changing ISP's all the time?
I think we talked about this before a long time ago... sucks that you were in
the DHCP range. I pay a hefty rate for business-class Fiber with a static IP... perhaps too much, but I outright *refuse* to submit the hosting of
my email to anyone.
Well, over the years I have changed ISP's a couple of times - I know many others who have as well. And with the NBN, changing ISP takes 10-15
minutes, so if you see a "better deal", it's easy to change.
I change Electricity and Gas proiders just as often, especially since it's easy to see how much each charge, and how providers the "best" deal
changes often.
I think we talked about this before a long time ago... sucks that you
were in the DHCP range. I pay a hefty rate for business-class Fiber
with a static IP... perhaps too much, but I outright *refuse* to submit the hosting of my email to anyone.
They bumped us up from 150Mb down & 10Mb up to gigabit down and 50Mmb up
for $4 more per month, and that's with 5 static IPs. Can't hurt to see what's currently available.
Who do you use for email for your own domain?
I host everything myself at home.
In 2017 I took some of my college grant-money and bought Microsoft licensing for some things. I have an Exchange email system in the home rack with other Vmware stuff and a small backup Linux relay in Montreal incase "shit happens"
Everything has worked here for several years now, zero problems.
I used to do the same thing years ago. I hosted my own email/domain at home from the very beginning. The only reason I gave up and went kicking and screaming to the cloud and Google for email was due to it becoming impossibl to send mail to domains when you were on a carrier DHCP IP range.
Well, over the years I have changed ISP's a couple of times - I know many others who have as well. And with the NBN, changing ISP takes 10-15 minutes, so if you see a "better deal", it's easy to change.
Who do you use for email for your own domain?
Warpslide wrote to All <=-
Well, it was good while it lasted!
I received an email from Google yesterday that my grandfathered free G Suite account will be discontinued as of July 1, 2022.
I've been on this service for what seems like forever. It was
originally released as a free service in August of 2006, marketed as "Google Apps for Your Domain". Google then discontinued their free offering in 2012, but for those of us who had a free account we were grandfathered in.
deon wrote to Warpslide <=-
Who do you use for email for your own domain?
I'm curious what folks use.
I dont want really want to go to a provider for mail - so I might have
to bring it all back in house again :(
boraxman wrote to deon <=-
You will lose the e-mail address when you change ISP.
I have never changed ISP, so I've never had this problem.
Personally, I would rather people I e-mail change their e-mail address every now and then, and not use GMail than use GMail. Up to them of course, but who is changing ISP's all the time?
Atreyu wrote to Weatherman <=-
I think we talked about this before a long time ago... sucks that you
were in the DHCP range. I pay a hefty rate for business-class Fiber
with a static IP... perhaps too much, but I outright *refuse* to submit the hosting of my email to anyone.
Weatherman wrote to Warpslide <=-
I did have a brainstorm today that I am looking into. Going back to hosting my own email/calendar platform at home and using a free or very affordable email store and forward service. Dynu-DNS does this for
$9.99 per year. They can accept inbound/outbound email to your domain
and do it on custom ports to also get around the tcp/25 blocks.
Arelor wrote to Weatherman <=-
If you are serious, even if only for hobby purposes, you need a proper subscription. Everything else is making do by putting junk parts
together and hoping it all works.
(But I can see the AT&T fiber on utility poles winding through trees on my block. My neighbor was down for 3 days when a passing garbage truck hit a branch, which knocked down the fiber. Maybe I just need to chuck it all and put everything in AWS...)
I'd like to forward my mail to there, but gmail in a web browser, when combined with an Android phone is pretty good.
Hell, I just got a flyer from work advertising AT&T business fiber for
$150/1Gbit symmetrical. I pay more for Comcast's 400/20 internet, a couple of cable channels and dial tone.
Hell, I just got a flyer from work advertising AT&T business fiber for $150/1Gbit symmetrical. I pay more for Comcast's 400/20 internet, a
couple of cable channels and dial tone.
That's pretty good. I was using DNSExit, I think they were $24.99 a year for the same type of service.
Who do you plan on using for outbound email?
Another thing I'd thought about was setting up Mail-In-A-Box on a VPS and using it to host my email.
On 01-31-22 20:21, Weatherman wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
I really want to test out Cloudflare's tunnel service (which is free).
You can get around carrier-grade NATs or anything and still host
services directly on the Internet in the Cloudflare network.
Hello poindexter!
31 Jan 22 08:36, you wrote to deon:
I'd like to forward my mail to there, but gmail in a web browser,
when combined with an Android phone is pretty good.
That is why they keep people. Google got the interface on both sides
pretty right. It does have some nit picks though....
Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
I have heard they take awaoy your nerd license if you put it all in AWS instead of hacking your own half functioning solution together.
Vorlon wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
Hello poindexter!
31 Jan 22 08:41, you wrote to Atreyu:
Hell, I just got a flyer from work advertising AT&T business fiber for
$150/1Gbit symmetrical. I pay more for Comcast's 400/20 internet, a couple of cable channels and dial tone.
But is it really available in your area? I regularly see horror stories out of the USA on arstechnica about how shabby the internet providers
are there...
Here in Australia we get the choice of multiple providers. It then just boils down to the technology used in that area. FTH, FTN, FTC, HFC,
Fixed wireless.
Weatherman wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
You run the client on the particular system, set it up to allow a particular service or the entire host itself, setup a CNAME to point to the tunnel ID in Cloudflare - and boom! You have your service directly
on the Internet bypassing all the ISP blocks, carrier grade-NATs, etc.
No need for a static IP or even a public IP. No opening ports on your home firewall, port forwards, or anything. Just really cool!
I've been playing with Cloudflare for a couple of weeks, and the free offering is really good. Proxying HTTP behind HTTPS looks promising, and any opportunity to shield home servers is a good thing.
I really want to test out Cloudflare's tunnel service (which is free). You can get around carrier-grade NATs or anything and still host services directly on the Internet in the Cloudflare network.
Sounds pretty cool, worth playing with.
I'd like to be the guy who moves everything to AWS then makes enough
money being caffeinated and playing with systems on YouTube to quit his
job and be a "content creator".
I'm looking at you, NetworkChuck.
I've been playing with Cloudflare for a couple of weeks, and the free offering is really good. Proxying HTTP behind HTTPS looks promising, and any opportunity to shield home servers is a good thing.
On 02-03-22 20:32, Weatherman wrote to Vk3jed <=-
When I get some more time, I plan on testing the free Cloudflare tunnel with my NextCloud setup. I want to see if I can host the VM directly
so I don't need to do a port-redirection or run it on a special
tcp/port.
Weatherman wrote to Poindexter Fortran <=-
Me comes up in my YouTube videos, too. I do like his videos, and got
to say I would rather create content on YouTube daily than do the
normal 9-5. Especially these days.
Play with my homelab and create content, or read through another 120 page security controls document and have to change my admin password every 30 days? Tough call. :)
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