OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show proof of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with loss of all benefits.

While I can't say who my employer is - I will say that the ultimate demanding party is obvious - at least if you live in USA.

I'm sorry - but I don't remember having a king. I haven't been "forced" to have something introduced in my body since 1985 when I was in the military - and at that time, I accepted it - I was govt property.

I think I should advise our "King" that I think he is at risk to dementia and therefore should have mandatory procedures done to prevent or else he is fired.

From what I remember, Federal powers were not supposed to trump state and personal sovereignty.

End of ticked-off rant.

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OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show
proof of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with
loss of all benefits.

.... politics elsewhere please.


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Hello Nuke,

OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show
proof of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with
loss of all benefits.

Is that federal government policy or is that your employers policy?

While I can't say who my employer is - I will say that the ultimate demanding party is obvious - at least if you live in USA.

I'm sorry - but I don't remember having a king. I haven't been
"forced" to have something introduced in my body since 1985 when I was
in the military - and at that time, I accepted it - I was govt
property.

I don't think your government or your employer it trying to be your king. They are trying to do what's best for everyone in these challenging times.

End of ticked-off rant.

I understand how you feel. I think we all need to work together to get past this pandemic that still rages on in some places.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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Re: Shot forced
By: Al to Nuke on Mon Oct 18 2021 08:32 pm

I don't think your government or your employer it trying to be your king. Th are trying to do what's best for everyone in these challenging times.

Governments and employers usually just want to protect their own arses while making everybody believe they are doing stuff for the good of everybody.

Most employers I know about only care for your health if you are hard to replace. And if you are hard to replace they can't threaten to kick you out if you don't stop eating Donuts anyway.

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Hello Arelor,

I don't think your government or your employer it trying to be your
king. Th are trying to do what's best for everyone in these
challenging times.

Governments and employers usually just want to protect their own arses while making everybody believe they are doing stuff for the good of everybody.

What do you think a government and employers should do? Let the pieces fall where they may and shrug it all off?

Most employers I know about only care for your health if you are hard
to replace. And if you are hard to replace they can't threaten to kick
you out if you don't stop eating Donuts anyway.

That is true. I have been with my fair share of such employers.

Ttyl :-),
Al

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OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show proof
of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with loss of all benefits.

While I can't say who my employer is - I will say that the ultimate demanding party is obvious - at least if you live in USA.

I'm sorry - but I don't remember having a king. I haven't been "forced"
to have

something introduced in my body since 1985 when I was in the military - and at that time, I accepted it - I was govt property.

I think I should advise our "King" that I think he is at risk to
dementia and therefore should have mandatory procedures done to prevent
or else he is fired.

From what I remember, Federal powers were not supposed to trump state
and personal sovereignty.

My Baseline, I am retired military and also a 20 yr retired police officer.
So, I understand your vetting on this ... however, in my personal opinion and complete respect....

consider this ... Everyone, everywhere is living is very difficult times. we must rise up each one of us as an individual to live in harmony. Living in
love and respect for one another is the basis of humanity, no matter who or where we live. Some latitude, and relax of a personal feeling for the greater good, is personal gesture to help set aside the tremendous fear many feel.

This is a great personal choice to make, that is for a community, one person
at a time. Sowing a field and then nourishing it, give a great harvest. Our young children are learning from what they see and hear. This is the field
that is being planted...

Respectfully ....

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On 10/19/2021 8:34 am Argos said...

My Baseline, I am retired military and also a 20 yr retired police officer. So, I understand your vetting on this ... however, in my personal opinion and complete respect....
consider this ... Everyone, everywhere is living is very difficult times.

Argos, I like your viewpoint; made me feel more towards a happy threshold; not there completely, but appreciate this response. And thank you for your extensive service.
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Re: Shot forced
By: Al to Arelor on Tue Oct 19 2021 02:51 am

What do you think a government and employers should do? Let the pieces fall where they may and shrug i
all off?

Just pointing out that goodwill is usually a facade behind which to hide ulterior motives.

I know of certain firm around here which won't let you have two minutes to run to the bathroom if you are
peeing yourself, doesn't give a damn if the temperature control in office works or not, and won't care
for fixing any of this unless they start losing employees or getting an inspection.

When they start talking about running the firm as a family and doing group activities in order to form
bonds and do stuff in common, anybody in their right mind will understand it is all a pile of crap and
there is some ulterior reasoning behind it, because they don't actually care if you get AIDS and die.

It is a theatre play they set in stage so it looks like they are doing stuff they think people thinks
they should be doing. As a bonus it serves middle-rank management which is usually good for nothing to
justify their existence in front of upper management.

Kicking people out of their job is not caring for them. It is declaring that if you don't want to partake
in the theatrical play then you must be prevented from making a living. ie. you must be prevented from
living. ie. comply or die. This is the closest thing you get to lining up people who dislikes the
motivational speeches from Human Resources and shooting them through the head without actually lining
them up and shooting them.


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You are going to take some heat for discussing politics in a
"safe-space."

Yeah. Given that these types of topics almost always derail, better to
post in those other places - but seems everyone likes to add their two
cents, I guess this one will derail too, and if they don't they just
leave people pissed off.

If I post my 2c it will definitley derail. So I'll just abstain..

Can we go back to our regular programming now?

Andrew

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apam wrote to Blue White <=-

Yeah. Given that these types of topics almost always derail, better to post in those other places - but seems everyone likes to add their two cents, I guess this one will derail too, and if they don't they just
leave people pissed off.

Yeah. As recently discussed, ailing-but-still-rocking-it Phil Collins once said: "I can feel it, coming in the air, tonight. Oh lord!"

Not that there's not a place for that sort of thing (and the responses to
that sort of thing, and the inevitable slipping into name-calling and threatening posturing and childishness and everything else you'd expect to
stem from that sort of thing). Just not sure that place is here.
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Nuke wrote (2021-10-18):

OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show proof
of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with loss of
all benefits.

I'm sorry that you work at a company that treat their employees like replaceable human resources. Unfortunately in the US employers have bigger freedom to act like assholes and fire employees anytime for whatever reason.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/At-will_employment

As a citizen of old Europe, who often sees such behaviour in movies and tv shows, it feels wrong and unjust. In my country the employer usually doesn't have the right to ask you about things like your vaccination status or details about your health or other private stuff. You are even allowed to lie about it (if you are asked). There are a few exceptions like for health care providers, schools etc, but they still cannot fire you just like that ("you're fired").

I don't have the impression it has much to do with Covid-19, vaccination controversies (pro and anti) or Republicans vs. Democrats. It's just the consequences of at-will employment. Of course there are good reasons from a business perspective to get rid of unvaccinated employees. Or interfere with their private lives and invent clauses in their contracts that regulate what they are allowed and not allowed to do in their private time. Or other bullshit.

The kings have been replaced by unregulated businesses.

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Nuke wrote to All <=-

OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show proof
of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with loss of all benefits.

That was rather abrupt. I have also been vaxed, by choice, at the earliest possible time I could be at my age and health category. I have been
wondering what employers who hand down such mandates would do to someone who was at least scheduled to be vaxed, especially since you are supposed to
wait a certain amount of time between shots?

From what I remember, Federal powers were not supposed to trump state
and personal sovereignty.

True. If it is not covered in the Constitution or one of its amendments,
it falls to the state. That said, if it is your employer voluntarily going along with the federal-level advice/mandate, that is a different story.

You are going to take some heat for discussing politics in a "safe-space."
You might try one of these echos, if you have access:

FIDO Politics (real-sounding names required)
DoveNet Debate (aliases allowed)


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Al wrote to Nuke <=-

I don't think your government or your employer it trying to be your
king. They are trying to do what's best for everyone in these
challenging times.

His employer is more likely doing it so they don't get sued or fined.


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BY: Nuke(21:2/150)

OK - don't get me wrong at the start. I'm vaccinated - was by choice.
But this week, got the memo from my employer that if I don't show proof
of vaccination by such-and-such date, I will be terminated with loss of
all benefits.

If its employer mandate and one does get damaged from it, the employer should be liable. The V-word has its positives (such as reducing the number of people in the intensive care wards), but it also has its negatives such as flaring up heart issues in young people and blood clots in older people.

I know we have to be careful in this network, but I do have a decent centrist argument.


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On 19 Oct 2021 at 06:41p, Blue White pondered and said...

From what I remember, Federal powers were not supposed to trump state and personal sovereignty.

True. If it is not covered in the Constitution or one of its amendments, it falls to the state. That said, if it is your employer voluntarily going along with the federal-level advice/mandate, that is a different story.

You are going to take some heat for discussing politics in a
"safe-space." You might try one of these echos, if you have access:

FIDO Politics (real-sounding names required)
DoveNet Debate (aliases allowed)

I would endorse that. Suggest move the thread to an othernet where the politics of who does what (or not) to whom etc. can be aired there. My sense is despite best attempts from all parties involved the thread could turn pear shaped fairly quickly and I'd like to avoid any unnecessary/unintended
acrimony here. Thanks all.

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On 20 Oct 2021 at 09:55a, apam pondered and said...

If I post my 2c it will definitley derail. So I'll just abstain..

when I saw derail... my mind went to Fantasy Island and deplane... deplane..

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My previous message had no politics in it.

I was agreeing with you.

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Re: Shot forced
By: Nuke to All on Mon Oct 18 2021 06:53 pm

While I can't say who my employer is - I will say that the ultimate demanding party is obvious - at least if you live in USA.

I'm sorry - but I don't remember having a king. I haven't been "forced" to have something introduced in my body since 1985 when I was in the military - and at that time, I accepted it - I was govt property.

You're still a US citizen while in the US military - But the military is allowed to force things on you?

From what I remember, Federal powers were not supposed to trump state and personal sovereignty.

Similarly, in US states where marijuana is legal I believe you can still get into trouble in some situations because marijuana is still illegal in federal law. I'm not sure how these types of situations is normally handled.

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j david wrote to apam <=-

apam wrote to Blue White <=-

Not that there's not a place for that sort of thing (and the responses
to that sort of thing, and the inevitable slipping into name-calling
and threatening posturing and childishness and everything else you'd expect to stem from that sort of thing). Just not sure that place is
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I was suggesting there were other places to go and gave him echo names to
look for. The person you are responding to didn't like that, either.


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apam wrote to Blue White <=-

You are going to take some heat for discussing politics in a
"safe-space."

Yeah. Given that these types of topics almost always derail, better to post in those other places - but seems everyone likes to add their two cents, I guess this one will derail too, and if they don't they just
leave people pissed off.

If I post my 2c it will definitley derail. So I'll just abstain..

Can we go back to our regular programming now?

My previous message had no politics in it. It contained a question about
his employer, a note that the employer can choose to do such things voluntarily, and the line you quoted above, which is 100% true... FSXnet is
a politics-free safe-space.

There were several other responses that contained politics, but mine is the only one you chose to respond to.

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Re: Shot forced
By: Nightfox to Nuke on Wed Oct 20 2021 04:52 pm

You're still a US citizen while in the US military - But the military is allowed to force things on you?

I don'tknow about the US, but in Spain you pretty much lose the right to hold
a public opinion as long as you serve in the military.

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When I replied I explained both situations, but unfortunately certain
issues are dicey. I might need to make a new othernet. Bring back the classic Othernet of Yesteryear XpresitNet.

You're of course free to do what you want, but there are (as blue white
pointed out) already other places one can have these discussions.

I suspect though, most people don't want to debate politics, they want
people to agree with them - and when they don't that's when things derail.

I don't really understand why blue white thought I was having a go at
him, I really wasn't. Just agreeing that there are other places, and elaborating why taking discussion to those other places was a good idea.

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On 21 Oct 2021 at 12:04p, apam pondered and said...

I don't really understand why blue white thought I was having a go at
him, I really wasn't. Just agreeing that there are other places, and elaborating why taking discussion to those other places was a good idea.

I think it's always a bit fraught when it comes to discussing something that has any political or religious theme to it, especially in a written form like echomail when it can be easy for someone reading text to infer (often incorrectly) the tone/sentiment behind what the author has written.

As you know we've all seen some ding-dongs over time which seemingly start out quite innocent with parties posting comments on something and other points of view only for things to sadly turn a bit nasty later on. Often it's because the reader has inferred (or misunderstood) a lot more from a message posted than I think the author ever intended.

This community by and large does a good job at self moderation and community moderation in all of these things. I try to point out when I think things may be heading down a path of potential drama but honestly it's not that often I see things that I think I need to - which is nice :) I also think having some values and housekeeping stuff that's (over time) evolved in fsxNet has helped with this.

It barks a little that some who have been in fsxNet in the past and then disliked comments made by person x or y, then left, have gone on to label the whole network as being x or y orientated populated by people of a b or c views etc etc..

Something I've always thought rather unfair.. but then hey, I guess that's life as folks can hold their own views about something. It's just that (in my opinion) they are not always that necessarily representative of what the 'something' they are banging on actually is. :)

Equally the leave then slate the network for things that might have happened for a short period or once to them etc. etc. but that was x ago and since then people have come and gone. The old timers here (can I say that now, is the network that old enough?) will know better :)

Anywho I realize this was a reply to you but in fact it more of a general musing to all.

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I think it's always a bit fraught when it comes to discussing
something that has any political or religious theme to it, especially
in a written form like echomail when it can be easy for someone
reading text to infer (often incorrectly) the tone/sentiment behind
what the author has written.

Yeah, and I'm not always very clear with my thoughts, what I mean and
what I type don't always come out right.

It barks a little that some who have been in fsxNet in the past and
then disliked comments made by person x or y, then left, have gone on
to label the whole network as being x or y orientated populated by
people of a b or c views etc etc..

I haven't really noticed that much to be honest, but then I don't read everywhere. I do believe the scale of view points does lean significantly towards one side in BBSing, regardless of network. I'm not sure why that
is, but I guess it's to do with the retro aspect. That shouldn't really
matter though, as we do all have something in common, ie.. bbsing/ftn
networks, retro things, computers etc.

Something I've always thought rather unfair.. but then hey, I guess
that's life as folks can hold their own views about something. It's
just that (in my opinion) they are not always that necessarily representative of what the 'something' they are banging on actually
is. :)

It is unfair, but people do it all the time, not just with networks but individuals to. People have become so angry when it becomes to politics.
It's their way or the highway, and to be honest, I'm like that a bit too
- it's ever increasing anger fueled by 'the other side'. It's probably
the same for the other people. I really think it's social media that has
set this off.. by tailoring content to 'your interests', you get so used
to people thinking the way you do, that when they don't ... chaos.

Equally the leave then slate the network for things that might have
happened for a short period or once to them etc. etc. but that was x
ago and since then people have come and gone. The old timers here (can
I say that now, is the network that old enough?) will know better :)

Yep, but then perhaps that's their loss. It is sad though when they have influence over others, and others choose to believe them vs trying it out themselves.

Anywho I realize this was a reply to you but in fact it more of a
general musing to all.

I know.

Andrew

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BY: apam(21:1/182.1)

My previous message had no politics in it.

I was agreeing with you.

When I replied I explained both situations, but unfortunately certain issues are dicey. I might need to make a new othernet. Bring back the classic Othernet of Yesteryear XpresitNet.


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On 20 Oct 21 18:52:03, Utopian Galt said the following to Apam:

When I replied I explained both situations, but unfortunately certain issue are dicey. I might need to make a new othernet. Bring back the classic Othernet of Yesteryear XpresitNet.

Oh GOD not *that* stupid net... You were free to "Xpress" yourself, as long as you routinely kissed the behind of its ZC and agreed with him personally and politically. The moment you didn't, you were flamed or ridiculed to the point where its like, why am I making long-distance dialup modem calls to receive packets with content along the lines of a penis comparison contest.

I was the one who effectively caused the demise of that net.

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On 20 Oct 2021 at 04:52p, Nightfox pondered and said...

You're still a US citizen while in the US military - But the military is allowed to force things on you?

Yup. Absolutely. The US military is an all-volunteer force; when
you join up, you sign away a lot of your rights for the duration of
your tenure. Disclaimer: I'm a former Marine Corps officer.

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I thought so, but could not tell if the last bit was directed at me or others. Thanks! :)

Oh good :)

Glad that's sorted, I was worried I had upset you :)

Thanks,
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apam wrote to Blue White <=-

My previous message had no politics in it.

I was agreeing with you.

I thought so, but could not tell if the last bit was directed at me or
others. Thanks! :)



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apam wrote to Utopian Galt <=-

I don't really understand why blue white thought I was having a go at
him, I really wasn't. Just agreeing that there are other places, and elaborating why taking discussion to those other places was a good
idea.

Honestly, I had probably been reading one of those other echos I suggested right before reading here. Not always good on the frame of mind. I would
call it my fault for misunderstanding.

Today I am reading my fsx echos first! :)


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Nightfox wrote to Nuke <=-

You're still a US citizen while in the US military - But the military
is allowed to force things on you?

I was never in the military but my childhood friend did join the USAF after
we graduated. Before sending him to Desert Sword/Storm, they gave them all sorts of shots and I didn't get the impression that they were allowed to decline them.

Before that time, back in the 1940s/50s, when they were experimenting with atomic weapons, they would use some soldiers as test subjects of sorts,
having them in foxholes, ships, or buildings that were close to the
explosions. Back then they didn't know what trouble that could cause.
IIRC, the British military also did this. In both cases, I get the
impression they were voluntold that they'd be doing that (and may not have known exactly why they were there).


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Blue White wrote to Nightfox <=-

Before that time, back in the 1940s/50s, when they were experimenting
with atomic weapons, they would use some soldiers as test subjects of sorts, having them in foxholes, ships, or buildings that were close to
the explosions.

There was an interesting documentary about the rise in cancer deaths among movie actors and personnel who worked on a couple of movies filmed around
the same time we were doing atomic testing in the US southwest.




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On 10/22/2021 8:22 pm tenser said...

tenure. Disclaimer: I'm a former Marine Corps officer.

Thank you for your service sir!
Navy 10 years enlisted on this end. Now out, but still playing the game.

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Oh GOD not *that* stupid net... You were free to "Xpress" yourself, as
long as you routinely kissed the behind of its ZC and agreed with him personally and politically. The moment you didn't, you were flamed or ridiculed to the point
where its like, why am I making long-distance dialup modem calls to
receive packets with content along the lines of a penis comparison
contest.
I was the one who effectively caused the demise of that net.

It seems to have resurfaced as Facebook and Twitter.

- Mark
   
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apam wrote to Blue White <=-

Glad that's sorted, I was worried I had upset you :)

In some ways, it is interesting that we worry about that. I often do, too.
I am less likely to worry if it is a person I mostly interact with in
echos that feature "abrasive topics" but, most of the time, I like to try
not to be overly negative in responses.


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On 23 Oct 21 08:42:20, Weatherman said the following to Atreyu:

I was the one who effectively caused the demise of that net.

It seems to have resurfaced as Facebook and Twitter.

Remember in the 90's how "surfing the information superhighway" was going to bring us alllllll together in some hippie utopian magical fantasy world?

Facebook is Myspace without the stupid bands or Tom's mess... Twitter is the modern Town Square, where someone can be placed in the gallows and have the rest of the proverbial peasants free to hurl rotten vegetables.

Atreyu

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Remember in the 90's how "surfing the information superhighway" was going
to bring us alllllll together in some hippie utopian magical fantasy
world?
Facebook is Myspace without the stupid bands or Tom's mess... Twitter is
the modern Town Square, where someone can be placed in the gallows and
have the rest of the proverbial peasants free to hurl rotten vegetables.

It turns out they are just a larger scale of the same crap we saw in some BBS networks years ago. Just with way more money.

- Mark
   
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