• Re: Z80 CP/M

    From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Dr. What on Wed Apr 8 19:43:00 2020
    On 04-07-20 11:24, Dr. What wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Vk3jed wrote to garycrunk <=-

    There was CP/M for the 8086/88, called CP/M-86, but the IBM/Microsoft
    deal with MS-DOS kept CP/M-86 out of the PC market.

    Didn't they make an Intel 8080 version of CP/M?

    yes, though from what I believe, at the binary level, the 8080 instruction set is a subset of the Z80, though the assembler syntax was different.


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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195 to Spectre on Wed Apr 8 22:41:06 2020

    Hello Spectre!

    07 Apr 20 03:40, you wrote to me:

    From my very limited memory, the Microbee computers ran CP/M.

    I believe you're right there. Used to have a bee network with 2
    floppy drives on it at highscool for a bit.

    See my previous message, with a little bit of history.




    Vorlon


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  • From Vorlon@21:1/195 to Vk3jed on Wed Apr 8 22:43:40 2020

    Hello Vk3jed!

    07 Apr 20 19:58, you wrote to me:

    That's correct, a friend had a Microbee when I first moved out of
    home, and it definitely ran CP/M. I even wrote software for it
    using

    I thought they did. It was when being a teenager that I
    encounterd one, and it was only a couple of hours.

    They were a decent machne in their day too. Only issue was the
    plastic case made them radiators of RF, not good for those who ran HF radio. :) But computing nice, they were a nice machine.

    A lot of them from back then had just plastic cases, and/or a metal RF sheild. My C64 had one, the Amiga 600 I'm restoring has one.



    Vorlon


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Vorlon on Thu Apr 9 15:06:00 2020
    On 04-08-20 22:43, Vorlon wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    A lot of them from back then had just plastic cases, and/or a metal RF sheild. My C64 had one, the Amiga 600 I'm restoring has one.

    I don't remember seeing a shield in the Microbee.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Wed Apr 8 12:21:00 2020
    it, but I have a MS-Sofcard clone in a IIe...

    I have a MS Softcard as well. :)

    I always pereferred the PCPI Appli-Card myself.. 64k on board, that can be
    used as a ramcard when not in z80, also had a 128k ramcard that could be used as a ramdisk. Never saw the extension card though. And it ran at 6Mhz off hand...

    Spec


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Sat Apr 11 22:08:00 2020
    I don't remember seeing a shield in the Microbee.

    Might've been an early one, I have recollection of a thin metal shield in the top half....

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sun Apr 12 16:46:00 2020
    On 04-08-20 12:21, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    it, but I have a MS-Sofcard clone in a IIe...

    I have a MS Softcard as well. :)

    I always pereferred the PCPI Appli-Card myself.. 64k on board, that can
    be used as a ramcard when not in z80, also had a 128k ramcard that
    could be used as a ramdisk. Never saw the extension card though. And
    it ran at 6Mhz off hand...

    Sounds like a nice card. Don't recall seeing one though. One thing I do like about the MS Softcard is the manual was very old school, full of technical details that never get mentioned these days. :)


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sun Apr 12 16:48:00 2020
    On 04-11-20 22:08, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I don't remember seeing a shield in the Microbee.

    Might've been an early one, I have recollection of a thin metal shield
    in the top half....

    Yeah I don't know how long he's had it, but it radiated RF crud much worse than my homebuilt XT clone did. :/ Used to frustate him as well.


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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@21:4/122 to Spectre on Sun Apr 12 00:06:00 2020
    Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    I don't remember seeing a shield in the Microbee.

    Might've been an early one, I have recollection of a thin metal shield
    in the top half....

    You'd need some shielding like that to get FCC certified. I used to work in
    a Mac software house in the '90s, and we'd get seed units to play with long before they made it to market. Most of them had "NOT FCC CERTIFIED" stickers on them, and put out a ton of RF crap.


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  • From Spectre@21:3/101 to Vk3jed on Mon Apr 13 20:53:00 2020
    Yeah I don't know how long he's had it, but it radiated RF crud much worse than my homebuilt XT clone did. :/ Used to frustate him as well.

    Worst I had was the ol' II+ It could oblierate most TV channels quite happily at my parents... which generally left dad non plussed... Everything after
    that steadily got better.

    Spec


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  • From Vk3jed@21:1/109 to Spectre on Sun Apr 19 18:33:00 2020
    On 04-13-20 20:53, Spectre wrote to Vk3jed <=-

    Yeah I don't know how long he's had it, but it radiated RF crud much worse than my homebuilt XT clone did. :/ Used to frustate him as well.

    Worst I had was the ol' II+ It could oblierate most TV channels quite happily at my parents... which generally left dad non plussed... Everything after that steadily got better.

    Interesting. I haven't tried to run an old Apply while watching TV, so I didn't know. :)


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