My city begins a new lockdown starting tomorrow. The
premier of Ontario will be making another announcement
tomorrow, rumours on the news say it could be a province-
wide lockdown or some other sweeping restrictions..
...I don't really feel safe driving three hours north and
risk exposing myself and family members to something. My
grandparents are near 90 so I choose to play it safe.
Weather wise, we've had next to no snow this year. A
light dusting here and there, but thankfully I've not had
to shovel the driveway just yet.
We're sitting at +2oC and it's 8pm on Sunday, so nothing
to complain about.
Nothing like the winters I remember as a child. I would
have had several snowmen built and cool snow fort that my
sister wouldn't be allowed in... ;)
I did not hear about "province-wide". That would be a major
blow for my biz (again) as for many others.
WHERE is "three hours north"?
I've had my driveway done twice. But I like it very much to
stay mild and snowless!
Yes.. +1C in Bancroft right now. I'm debating whether to let
the cats come in and sleep in the house or not.
Yeah, it's just a rumour at this point, this province-wide thing is from "government sources" due to take effect Christmas Eve and last for 28
days forthe south and for 14 days for the north:
https://bit.ly/2WBBngV
But we'll find out for sure this afternoon.
My city begins a new lockdown starting tomorrow. The premier of Ontario will be making another announcement tomorrow, rumours on the news say it could be a province-wide lockdown or some other sweeping restrictions.
At any rate, we'll
find out tomorrow. I forgot to buy cat food today, so I get to deal
with the fun new restrictions when I go get it tomorrow or risk the kitties staging a mutiny.
I got a parental guilt-trip from my mom about me not coming home for the holidays, but they understand. I don't really feel safe driving three hours north and risk exposing myself and family members to something.
My grandparents are near 90 so I choose to play it safe.
Update: Lockdown for the whole province of Ontario starting 12:01am on Boxing Day (Dec 26th). The lockdown will last until at least Jan 23rd
for the south and until at least Jan 9th for the north.
"It is the seventh straight day of more than 2,000 further cases in the province."
Looks like I'll continue work from home for the foreseeable future. At least I get to spend time with my cats. I did go out and get their food today, you wouldn't know there was a lockdown in place except for I had
to answer six questions about whether I've been out of the country or
have any symptoms, etc...
Looks like I'll continue work from home for the foreseeable future. At least I get to spend time with my cats. I did go out and get their food today, you wouldn't know there was a lockdown in place except for I had to answer six questions about whether I've been out of the country or have
any symptoms, etc...
Update: Lockdown for the whole province of Ontario
starting 12:01am on Boxing Day (Dec 26th). The lockdown
will last until at least Jan 23rd for the south and until
at least Jan 9th for the north.
"It is the seventh straight day of more than 2,000 further
cases in the province."
Update: Lockdown for the whole province of Ontario
starting 12:01am on Boxing Day (Dec 26th). The lockdown
will last until at least Jan 23rd for the south and until
at least Jan 9th for the north.
https://files.ontario.ca/moh-provincewide-shutdown-en-2020-12-
21.pdf
..it doesn't seem to affect the vast majority of businesses
at all.
So basically, it is business as usual.
From what I've seen, in the US mind you... the 'lockdowns' that they enforce don't change one damn thing. Its been the closing of bars and restaurants in the US that cause the majority of change in what the
public does out in public...
I don't want to get too political at all, but if a country or area wants
a 'lockdown', they should be enforcing the TARGET, HOME DEPOTS and WALMARTS of the world - because in my experience under covid, even when there is a 'lockdown' its been BUSIER than normal in the general public areas of large cities.
I'm not complaining - we have to do things to mitigate this virus... but I'd support intelligent things much more than shutting down the little guys. We should all mitigate intelligently with masking, distance and REALLY putting mitigation first and as a priority, and we should live
our lives...
Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-
..it doesn't seem to affect the vast majority of businesses
at all.
of January seems tempting. My area is deemed to be in
Southern Ontario, and therefore the "until Jan 23" applies.
Warpslide wrote to paulie420 <=-
The last time we did it, we were both super impressed and even after
covid will probably continue to shop for groceries that way. Wal-Mart without the screaming babies! It's a win-win! ;)
The last time we did it, we were both super impressed and even after covid will probably continue to shop for groceries that way. Wal-Mar without the screaming babies! It's a win-win! ;)
I've still been grocery shopping in person because we eat a lot of
fresh veggies. When you order them on the website are they picking
good ones for you or giving you the crap that is almost ready to be thrown out?
I'm tempted to try Sobey's new service as they have some of the best
produce around (bit $) and your order is picked by robots from what employees I drive tell me.
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I think reducing operating hours, but allowing more businesses to open would beneficial. Target and Walmart wouldnt lose much if they were open 11 to 8 M and perhaps 9-6 SA-SUN.
And Costco. I refuse to go in there anymore. It's busy & crowded in there at the best of times, but the last time I was in after restrictions started easing it was right back to the way it was, except most people were wearing a mask or face shield. I'm standing in line to check out and I'm surrounded by people, almost shoulder to shoulder. No distancing at all.
I don't want to get too political at all
I think reducing operating hours, but allowing more businesses to open would bebeneficial. Target and Walmart wouldnt lose much if they were
open 11 to 8 M-Fand perhaps 9-6 SA-SUN.
We've taken to ordering our groceries from Wal-Mart online and
scheduling atime for them to bring it out to our car. We're looking at trying this with acouple of other grocery stores as well. The first
time we did it with Wal-Martit wasn't 100% smooth, but it has been ever since.
The last time we did it, we were both super impressed and even after
covid willprobably continue to shop for groceries that way. Wal-Mart without thescreaming babies! It's a win-win! ;)
Jay
And thats my Costco story!
It was an interesting experience to visit one but once was enough for me :)
Mine is that in 2017 my family visited the USA and stayed with family in Seattle. One of the things we did was visit Costco as we had heard about this chain well before we ever set foot in the US and were curious to check it out.
It was an interesting experience to visit one but once was enough for me
On 23 Dec 2020, Avon said the following...
It was an interesting experience to visit one but once was enough for :)
But they have $1.50 hot dogs & pop w/ free refills! ;)
Ahh, but where do you buy your yearly supply of Peanut Butter? :-)
Naw, I get it. I didn't shop there as much until the Pandemic. These days the emphasis is on making as few "runs" for supplies as possible. Bigger quanities like they have at Costco are good for that. Prior to
the Pandemic I did not go very often. Most of the required supplies
were obtained at Trader Joes. (A smaller grocery store chain that
focuses on in-house brands.)
I thought they only allowed card-carrying "members" to enter. Did you
get a free membership and then just never used it after the first visit?
I thought they only allowed card-carrying "members" to enter. Did you get a free membership and then just never used it after the first vis
Can't remember, my brother and his wife got me in, they are members I knowthat much.
And thats my Costco story!
It was an interesting experience to visit one but once was enough for me
:)
I think reducing operating hours, but allowing more businesses to open
would beneficial. Target and Walmart wouldnt lose much if they were open
11 to 8 M and perhaps 9-6 SA-SUN.
They tried reducing hours for some services in Spain.
What happens is that people clogs those services because they are open
for a shorter time. A service that serves 300 people a day is going to serve them the same whether it is open 5 hours or 8. With a shorter span you are just ensuring more people is in the store per hour.
Warpslide wrote to All <=-
Looks like I'll continue work from home for the foreseeable future. At least I get to spend time with my cats. I did go out and get their
food today, you wouldn't know there was a lockdown in place except for
I had to answer six questions about whether I've been out of the
country or have any symptoms, etc...
Warpslide wrote to All <=-
Looks like I'll continue work from home for the foreseeable future.
least I get to spend time with my cats.
Avon wrote to Warpslide <=-
borders to anyone other than returning New Zealand citizens and require those who came back to stay in managed isolation facilities for two
weeks before being able to carry on with their internal travels.
At least in my area, the best time to go is about 10 minutes after they open on a weekday. These are "senior hours" but anyone can go in who is immunocomprimsed.
On 12-21-20 14:13, Warpslide wrote to All <=-
Update: Lockdown for the whole province of Ontario starting 12:01am on Boxing Day (Dec 26th). The lockdown will last until at least Jan 23rd
for the south and until at least Jan 9th for the north.
"It is the seventh straight day of more than 2,000 further cases in the province."
Looks like I'll continue work from home for the foreseeable future. At least I get to spend time with my cats. I did go out and get their
food today, you wouldn't know there was a lockdown in place except for
I had to answer six questions about whether I've been out of the
country or have any symptoms, etc...
On 12-21-20 20:15, Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-
Well, according to the "official" guidelines:
https://files.ontario.ca/moh-provincewide-shutdown-en-2020-12-
21.pdf
..it doesn't seem to affect the vast majority of businesses
at all.
The main matter as expressed in the doc is a maximum number of
people in a facility, minimum distancing of people, the
wearing of masks, and reasonable cleaning of frequent touch
surfaces. However, this time, they impose PPE to "cover the
eyes" for workers. I don't have any workers, so I will be
fine. Although.. closing the shop voluntarily until the end
of January seems tempting. My area is deemed to be in
Southern Ontario, and therefore the "until Jan 23" applies.
So basically, it is business as usual.
On 12-22-20 08:00, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Warpslide <=-
We're under our country's version of a lockdown, but I still see more
people out than you'd expect. My mother has been hoping for a
combined Christmas gathering with my family and my sister's, we're
going to have to have a call today to postpone an all-family
gathering. We're *maybe* going to have a walk on the beach together,
weather permitting.
On 12-22-20 10:27, Avon wrote to Warpslide <=-
Sorry to hear this. It seems like many places are facing the same thing
in the lead up to Christmas. I understand a new more contagious version
of the virus is also causing issues for the UK leading to further lock down efforts there too :(
We've been fortunate in New Zealand. We had a big lock down back in
March that lasted 2-3 months and then restrictions started to lift
slowly. There's been a few regional (Auckland City) lock downs since
but by and large we've been able to reopen shops and lead a largely
normal life here since.
I think one big thing our government did quite early on was to close borders to anyone other than returning New Zealand citizens and require those who came back to stay in managed isolation facilities for two
weeks before being able to carry on with their internal travels.
This seems to have worked well for our country with the bulk of the
COVID cases being reported and caught at the border in these MIQ facilities.. Still it only takes a small chink in the armour and the
virus slips out. That's happened already with Auckland getting locked
down for 3 weeks some time back.
I think that's really wise, I'd do the same thing. Stay put. :)
We know how to do lockdowns properly. Our city centres were absolutely deadduring the lockdowns here.
Warpslide wrote to Tiny <=-
I was concerned about this too, but decided to give it a try anyway &
the results have been very good. They pick good ones, the only
"problem" we really had was with bananas that were very green, but
that seems to be par for the course at Wal-Mart, most of the time
their bananas are neon green on the shelf.
We tend to get our meats from a place here in Hamilton called Lococos, they don't have any order ahead service which kind of sucks as there
tends to be a lineup to get in.
That's the case pretty much everywhere now. Okay so they pick good stuff, I'll let Andrea know and we'll probably give it a try.
One butcher around here has call ahead but their too $$$. The one we
like is too old school. Take a number place now you take a number and
wait outside.
Hello Arelor!
** On Tuesday 22.12.20 - 10:59, Arelor wrote to Utopian Galt:
I think reducing operating hours, but allowing more businesses to open
would beneficial. Target and Walmart wouldnt lose much if they were open
11 to 8 M and perhaps 9-6 SA-SUN.
They tried reducing hours for some services in Spain.
What happens is that people clogs those services because they are open for a shorter time. A service that serves 300 people a day is going to serve them the same whether it is open 5 hours or 8. With a shorter span you are just ensuring more people is in the store per hour.
During the 1st lockdowns here, grocery stores only allowed a maximum number of people in at any one time. The rest of the people were forced to stand in a line outside. Couldn't they do the same for the stores in Spain?
to how cost effective it was. It did seem like you needed to really spend a certain amount with them each year to get back what you paid to them to be a member. At least I think that's right?
I don't think there's anything like them in New Zealand. I have a hunch there were whispers that they may come here but now with the pandemic I think all of that may have been scuppered.
I thought they only allowed card-carrying "members" to enter. Did
you get a free membership and then just never used it after the
first visit?
Can't remember, my brother and his wife got me in, they are members I know that much.
Vk3jed wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-
We know how to do lockdowns properly. Our city centres were absolutely dead during the lockdowns here. I even managed to make a tank of
petrol last 2 months (instead of 3 weeks)!
Warpslide wrote to Tiny <=-
We used to go to a butcher like that. They were more expensive, but
the meats were awesome. They had the most wonderful pepperettes, you
chomping away on one in the car when I bit down on a hunk of bone, not exactly pleasant but "at least you know it's real" I thought to
myself.
They closed to the public a few years back. They're still there and
have a sign up, but I guess they only deal with foodservice now.
On 12-23-20 07:52, Warpslide wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Meanwhile a neighbouring city here had an anti-mask protest through the streets with the end goal of putting the mayor of Burlington under citizens' arrest. (spoiler: they failed to do so)
On 12-23-20 07:08, poindexter FORTRAN wrote to Vk3jed <=-
Our drop in gasoline consumption is offset by our increased home gas
and electric consumption. The costs are a wash, but it's nice not
spending commute time in the car.
I do miss my morning and evening commute podcasts, though.
https://files.ontario.ca/moh-provincewide-shutdown-en-2020-
12-21.pdf
..it doesn't seem to affect the vast majority of
businesses at all.
Interesting and not as severe as we wenththrough this year.
Melbourne had some very tight restrictions.
..I don't have any workers, so I will be fine. Although..
closing the shop voluntarily until the end of January seems
tempting..
What's your business?
You can bring guests with you on your card. You can ring
your purchases separately but they have to be on the same
receipt. Fun fact: If you get a Costco gift card, you don't
need a membership to use it in the store, though they will
hound you to buy one.
Ogg wrote to Warpslide <=-
..it doesn't seem to affect the vast majority of
businesses at all.
From what I understand a small business like yours would
have to be curb side pickup?
of January seems tempting. My area is deemed to be in
Southern Ontario, and therefore the "until Jan 23" applies.
You're still southern?! Wow.
On 12-31-20 08:34, Ogg wrote to Vk3jed <=-
This time, restaurants are not allowed to have ANY sit-down
customers. Last time, there were alternative options with
distancing. Curb-side won't cut it for many of those places. So,
in some sense it is more restrictive to any place that relies on
public gatherings - however, big box stores are exempted. A lot
of independent businesses are up in arms about that favouritism.
You are forgiven. We tend to forget the things that are not
important to us. Besides, my business couldn't really be of much
use to you anyway. However, I *did* make a recent sale in
Australia!
https://ashlies.ca
Ogg wrote to Tiny <=-
that it is too. By appointment is another option. But I am
telling people just show up - that's your appointment. It's easy
to distance in my shop, and people can always turn their backs to
each other.
50% of my overhead lighting. I only unlock the door between 11a
and 3pm, then I just go sulk at home.
On 22 Dec 2020 at 06:35p, Ogg pondered and said...
I thought they only allowed card-carrying "members" to enter. Didyou
get a free membership and then just never used it after the firstvisit?
Can't remember, my brother and his wife got me in, they are members I
know
that much.
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Peterborough's Costco lineup was >1.5h today.
I kept driving, don't need 60lbs of toblerone that badly... yet...
Sobeys was about 2 minutes wait to get in.
Aaron
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