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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Weatherman to The Lizard Master on Wed Aug 19 2020 04:16 pm

Man, I don't even remember how I used to do this, but when the .D64 format first came out there was a converter back to commodore disk zip image. Then you could unzip it and write it to floppy. There is 100% a way to do this though.

Sure would be interested in knowing how that could be done.. I'll have to see if there's a way of using dd in Linux to write a Commie compatable 3 1/2" disk.

There has to be something like this for linux right? From what I remember I had a dos command back in the day that would change and .d64 into the four ! commodore zip files. Then you could transfer those to disk, unzip them, and boom you have whatever you wanted. That included copy protected back ups.

I've seen you can do it, but you need the Commodore 64 disk drive connected to the PC to do it. PC floppy drives if I recall correctly, aren't able to read the specific track/sector layout and format that the 1541 drive laid out.


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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: The Lizard Master to Weatherman on Thu Aug 20 2020 07:49 am

Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Weatherman to The Lizard Master on Wed Aug 19 2020 04:16 pm

Man, I don't even remember how I used to do this, but when the .D64 format first came out there was a converter back to commodore disk image. Then you could unzip it and write it to floppy. There is 1 a way to do this though.

Sure would be interested in knowing how that could be done.. I'll have t see if there's a way of using dd in Linux to write a Commie compatable 3 1/2" disk.

There has to be something like this for linux right? From what I remember I you wanted. That included copy protected back ups.

---TLM

IIRC Commodore uses a different track for whatever it calls their fat table,
so formatting a CBM floppy on a PC may not be possible.

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: paulie420 to Fang-Castro on Thu Aug 20 2020 04:13 pm

Telemate!

I always loved Terminate 5.0 at the end of my BBSing days back then...

you can still use it... i have 4.21 working

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Dennisk to The Lizard Master on Fri Aug 21 2020 08:42 am

I've seen you can do it, but you need the Commodore 64 disk drive connected to the PC to do it. PC floppy drives if I recall correctly, aren't able to read the specific track/sector layout and format that the 1541 drive laid out.

I actually have that, it's a zoom floppy (there are several). That's how I backed up my entire catalog. But, if you get the .D64 to Commodore Zip format (the one with the !'s) you can transfer it to your commodore via modem and unzip it. That's what I used to do when the internet was first a thing.

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Moondog to The Lizard Master on Thu Aug 20 2020 09:35 pm

Man, I don't even remember how I used to do this, but when the .D64 format first came out there was a converter back to commodore disk image. Then you could unzip it and write it to floppy. There is 1 a way to do this though.

Sure would be interested in knowing how that could be done.. I'll have t see if there's a way of using dd in Linux to write a Commie compatable 3 1/2" disk.

There has to be something like this for linux right? From what I remember I you wanted. That included copy protected back ups.

---TLM

IIRC Commodore uses a different track for whatever it calls their fat table, so formatting a CBM floppy on a PC may not be possible.

You still format it as a CMB Floppy. There are other ways, but I would open up NovaTerm, connect my 1200 baud modem by direct phone line, hit ATA one one ATDT on the other (or something like that), start an upload using Ymodem on the PC, start a download on the C64.

This is something I did a bunch of times, it might not have happened exactly like that I'm going back a number of years. But you can absolutely turn a D64 into the Commodore Zip format, transfer it over, and run it native.

---TLM

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: paulie420 to Fang-Castro on Thu Aug 20 2020 04:13 pm

I always loved Terminate 5.0 at the end of my BBSing days back then...

Terminate was always my go-to terminal.

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Moondog to The Lizard Master on Thu Aug 20 2020 09:35 pm

Man, I don't even remember how I used to do this, but when the .D64 format first came out there was a converter back to commodore disk image. Then you could unzip it and write it to floppy. There is 1 a way to do this though.

Sure would be interested in knowing how that could be done.. I'll have t see if there's a way of using dd in Linux to write a Commie compatable 3 1/2" disk.

There has to be something like this for linux right? From what I remember I you wanted. That included copy protected back ups.

---TLM

IIRC Commodore uses a different track for whatever it calls their fat table, so formatting a CBM floppy on a PC may not be possible.

You still format it as a CMB Floppy. There are other ways, but I would open up NovaTerm, connect my 1200 baud modem by direct phone line, hit ATA one one ATDT on the other (or something like that), start an upload using Ymodem on the PC, start a download on the C64.

This is something I did a bunch of times, it might not have happened exactly like that I'm going back a number of years. But you can absolutely turn a D64 into the Commodore Zip format, transfer it over, and run it native.

---TLM

Perhaps you can if you can get the track/sector layout right. I read somewhere you couldn't, but I may be mistaken.

Speaking of which, I have a Commodore 1540 Disk Drive and a C64. Just need the cable to connect the drive to the C64. If I can do that, and get disks formatted on the PC, then I have a way to transfer games from the PC to the C64.

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Dennisk to The Lizard Master on Mon Aug 24 2020 10:00 pm

Speaking of which, I have a Commodore 1540 Disk Drive and a C64. Just need cable to connect the drive to the C64. If I can do that, and get disks formatted on the PC, then I have a way to transfer games from the PC to the C64.

While it's cool you have an original floppy drive, there are SD card adapters available that simulate a floppy. Imagine how many 160k floppy images can
fit on a 2gb sd card?

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Re: Re: BBS client of choice
By: Dennisk to The Lizard Master on Mon Aug 24 2020 10:00 pm

Perhaps you can if you can get the track/sector layout right. I read somewhere you couldn't, but I may be mistaken.

Speaking of which, I have a Commodore 1540 Disk Drive and a C64. Just need the cable to connect the drive to the C64. If I can do that, and get disks formatted on the PC, then I have a way to transfer games from the PC to the C64.

No, it's way simpler than that. It's simply transferring files. If you have a modem for the commodore you can take a phone line and connect it directly to your machine and use NovaTerm or something to transfer the commodore zip format. The track/sector has no bearing.

---TLM

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